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and drafting OL is not on Snead, it's always Snead + OL coach

November 16, 2019 07:55AM
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Evans was 3rd round.

Right. So four guys, with half of them being new. Not a huge sample size.

And definitely not enough to say Snead is not good at drafting linemen as I've seen posted.

And besides, here's another reminder that it is NEVER *just* Snead. As has been said (and proven) many times, he's not an uberlord GM, he's a collaborative GM. So on OL picks he would work some with the head coach and coordinator, and a LOT with the OL coach. OL coaches are very invested in this process.

So let's break down Rams OL draft picks by regime. I always said btw that Boudreau was not good at picking them...he was better at coaching up young "ronin" (ie. castoffs with developmental possibilities).

Hits in blue, misses in red. Injured means a "miss." A player is a hit if he is starting in the league, regardless whether it is with the Rams. Just being on a squad doesn't count. Even a rookie can count as a starter if he is playing well and genuinely looks to be in the team's plans.

Too soon to tell = orange. Special case = green...can't count as a hit.

Rams OL picks, 2012-2016 (Boudreau & Snead):

Year round pick player position

2012 5 150 Rokevious Watkins G
2013 4 113 Barrett Jones G
2014 7 226 Mitchell Van Dyk OL
2014 1 2 Greg Robinson T
2014 7 250 Demetrius Rhaney OL
2015 6 215 Cody Wichmann G
2015 2 57 Rob Havenstein T
2015 4 119 Andrew Donnal T
2015 3 72 Jamon Brown T

Rams OL picks, 2017-2019: (Kromer & Snead):

2018 6 192 Jamil Demby T
2018 4 111 Brian Allen C
2018 3 89 Joseph Noteboom T

2019 5 169 David Edwards T
2019 3 97 Bobby Evans T

To finish up, here's VB on NB and Allen:

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from Rams Q&A: Vinny Bonsignore : [theathletic.com]

The thing that’s really frustrating from Rams standpoint is, they felt Noteboom and Allen were progressing. It would have been a lot easier, moving forward, had they gotten a full-season’s look at them – the growth, whatever progression/regression/plateau. They won’t have that



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  Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

max744November 15, 2019 03:06PM

  I remember the consensus being

Ram_Ruler297November 15, 2019 03:09PM

  Rodger Saffold, Jackie Slater, Duvol Love, Fred Miller

stlramz291November 15, 2019 03:12PM

  also

zn287November 15, 2019 03:24PM

  Tom Newberry - 50th pick Round 2

stlramz310November 16, 2019 08:05AM

  Yup. Jackie Slater, 3rd rounder

max322November 15, 2019 03:47PM

  Re: Yup. Jackie Slater, 3rd rounder

DESERT RAM214November 15, 2019 03:59PM

  Re: Yup. Jackie Slater, 3rd rounder

3030195November 15, 2019 04:51PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

chico n da rams244November 15, 2019 05:22PM

  disagree

zn190November 15, 2019 05:37PM

  Re: disagree

chico n da rams207November 16, 2019 10:10AM

  Re: disagree

zn184November 16, 2019 10:34AM

  Patriots OL coach Dante Scarnecchia must be worth $1B

Oakville Tim303November 15, 2019 05:30PM

  Re: Patriots OL coach Dante Scarnecchia must be worth $1B

zn356November 15, 2019 05:39PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

zn251November 15, 2019 06:06PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

max177November 15, 2019 09:23PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

dzrams225November 15, 2019 09:28PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

max251November 15, 2019 10:01PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

zn172November 15, 2019 10:36PM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

max316November 16, 2019 03:52AM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

zn196November 16, 2019 05:05AM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

dzrams323November 16, 2019 05:42AM

  Re: Don’t panic over idea that no 1st round means OL is doomed.

SoCalRAMatic169November 16, 2019 05:59AM

  and drafting OL is not on Snead, it's always Snead + OL coach

zn187November 16, 2019 07:55AM

  would love to draft the center from Wisconsin...

LMU93309November 16, 2019 04:11AM

  Yeah, need/value intersection is looking like interior OL in next draft...

Rams43198November 16, 2019 08:37AM

  just curious what you like about NB at LOT

ferragamo79313November 16, 2019 08:56AM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

Rams43185November 16, 2019 09:37AM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

max213November 16, 2019 10:26AM

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zn260November 16, 2019 10:41AM

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max182November 16, 2019 12:14PM

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LMU93336November 16, 2019 10:39AM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

max191November 16, 2019 02:29PM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

zn168November 16, 2019 02:47PM

  thing is NB and Allen are not developing

ferragamo79180November 16, 2019 03:28PM

  disagree

zn175November 16, 2019 03:46PM

  check your PM (nm)

ferragamo79184November 16, 2019 05:36PM

  ?

zn272November 16, 2019 06:21PM

  inbox of private messages

ferragamo79173November 17, 2019 07:15AM

  Re: inbox of private messages

zn146November 17, 2019 08:29AM

  oops sorry

ferragamo79175November 17, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

max201November 16, 2019 04:27PM

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zn164November 16, 2019 04:54PM

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max179November 16, 2019 05:21PM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

zn169November 16, 2019 06:47PM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

Anonymous User187November 16, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

zn181November 16, 2019 08:14PM

  Re: just curious what you like about NB at LOT

dzrams297November 16, 2019 11:30PM

  Here’s the deal, sports fans...

max163November 17, 2019 03:08AM

  good assessment of the situation, max

21Dog174November 17, 2019 03:13AM

  Re: Here’s the deal, sports fans...

dzrams176November 17, 2019 06:33AM

  I agree

zn195November 17, 2019 05:13AM

  Re: I agree

max174November 17, 2019 05:34AM

  Nice subthread discussion on future OL...

Rams43210November 17, 2019 08:17AM

  Re: Nice subthread discussion on future OL...

zn172November 17, 2019 08:38AM

  Re: Nice subthread discussion on future OL...

Rams43165November 17, 2019 09:03AM