October 29, 2019 07:27AM
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Rams43
How do we have a meaningful conversation of any QB playing behind such an OL? Seems downright silly to me.

Then there’s the fact that his top 2 RB’s are not 100%.

Consequently, Due to the above factors, McVay’s play calling options are limited.

So what do we do? Why, we dump on the former Pro Bowl QB, of course. Amazing.

First, I think labeling any posts that express concerns or frustration about Goff as 'Goff sucks posts' seems awfully disrespectful and condescending.

You're one of my favorite posters on this entire board even when we don't agree so I will always engage you but when we start doing these types of labels, it runs people off and makes the board a worse place. It honestly seems beneath you.

Now to your substantive point.

I do think people who are concerned about Goff have factored in the terrible OL. But I'll remind you that last year, when the OL was playing great, there was some concern expressed about Goff.

My current frustration is that he's inconsistent. And that's not a complaint that I've only had this year.

He was inconsistent last year when his OL was awesome. When his stats were the 8th best in the league, I still had some concern about his inconsistency.

Closely related to his inconsistency is another concern that he needs everything perfect to perform well. Great OL, league best WR room, a great running game, a genius HC and offensive scheme, etc.

Clearly every QB needs support in those areas to do great but the elite QBs bring elite production even when some of that support is lacking. A few years ago, Wilson had the lowest ranked OL in the league over a number of seasons. He still brought it. After Lynch retired, he didn't have a running game. He was still elite.

The expectation with Goff is that he would be elite. That is where the issue is. He's solid but I haven't seen special.

And these concerns are more than about this year.
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  No run game, o line penalties, Goff bailed us out

stlrams13988October 27, 2019 11:35AM

  He dropped some times today.

Ram_Ruler340October 27, 2019 11:38AM

  Re: Goff bailed them out?

Speed_Kills336October 27, 2019 11:41AM

  Re: Goff bailed them out?

Ram Fan Teacher318October 27, 2019 12:14PM

  Re: I guess man

Speed_Kills243October 27, 2019 12:36PM

  Re: I guess man

Ram Fan Teacher242October 27, 2019 12:41PM

  Re: I guess man

Rampage2K-205October 27, 2019 12:48PM

  I appreciate this response teach

Speed_Kills219October 27, 2019 01:04PM

  Hey Speed

Ram Fan Teacher243October 27, 2019 01:40PM

  yup and fair enough my friend.

Speed_Kills208October 27, 2019 01:47PM

  More than pleased with Goff today... but...

JamesJM281October 27, 2019 11:50AM

  It's just gotten comical, he had a great game

Ram49405October 27, 2019 12:24PM

  Goff had a solid game

six2stack301October 27, 2019 12:33PM

  His throw to Kupp on flag/double covered? to Reynolds?

Ram49200October 27, 2019 12:36PM

  Yes, he does flash brilliance...

JamesJM222October 27, 2019 12:41PM

  Re: His throw to Kupp on flag/double covered? to Reynolds?

six2stack198October 27, 2019 12:46PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

dzrams244October 27, 2019 01:17PM

  Honestly... this is my new biggest fear.. it's McVay...

JamesJM229October 27, 2019 01:47PM

  Re: They can both have issues...

dzrams185October 27, 2019 05:19PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

Rampage2K-218October 27, 2019 05:25PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

dzrams265October 27, 2019 05:30PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

Rampage2K-192October 27, 2019 05:40PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

dzrams225October 27, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

Rampage2K-188October 27, 2019 07:44PM

  Re: Those were good but Goff comes with a but...

dzrams303October 27, 2019 08:03PM

  of course you do lol nm

Speed_Kills177October 27, 2019 05:38PM

  Re: of course you do lol nm

Rampage2K-274October 27, 2019 05:41PM

  Huge Goff fan...defended him since a rookie

ferragamo79288October 27, 2019 01:55PM

  Are we overthinking this Goff thing?

Rams43246October 28, 2019 03:52PM

  Yes

Ram49289October 28, 2019 04:26PM

  Re: Yes

Rampage2K-198October 28, 2019 06:03PM

  Not at all

moklerman199October 28, 2019 07:19PM

  Re: Not at all

Rams43238October 28, 2019 09:02PM

  Re: Not at all

moklerman213October 28, 2019 09:15PM

  Here’s my biggest issue with the ‘Goff sucks’ posts...

Rams43354October 29, 2019 06:26AM

  Re: Here’s my biggest issue with the ‘Goff sucks’ posts...

GroundPounder189October 29, 2019 06:31AM

  Re: like I said this conversation is going nowhere

Speed_Kills200October 29, 2019 06:37AM

  Re: like I said this conversation is going nowhere

Rams43156October 29, 2019 07:15AM

  Re: I haven't seen any ‘Goff sucks’ posts...

dzrams286October 29, 2019 07:27AM

  Re: I haven't seen any ‘Goff sucks’ posts...

Rams43148October 29, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: Not at all

Rampage2K-207October 28, 2019 09:23PM

  Re: Not at all

moklerman177October 28, 2019 09:28PM

  Re: Not at all

Rampage2K-222October 28, 2019 09:34PM

  Re: Can we stick to debating facts...and do it respectfully?

dzrams164October 29, 2019 07:12AM

  Re: Can we stick to debating facts...and do it respectfully?

Rams43216October 29, 2019 07:19AM

  Re: I’m not sure how we can discuss any of this

Speed_Kills218October 29, 2019 02:33AM

  Re: you’re in the bubble man

Speed_Kills285October 29, 2019 02:29AM

  Re: No run game, o line penalties, Goff bailed us out

moklerman316October 28, 2019 08:28PM