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Re: NFL players v media/coaches/execs on Goff

July 30, 2019 04:25AM
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Classicalwit
Have you read the book Moneyball? It offers good insight into how professional athletes are evaluated and rated by executives, coaches, and other so-called experts. In the end, the process they use for evaluating athletes is highly subjective and based largely on stereotypes, peer pressure, and tradition.

It is an oversimplified process, and despite the fact that there is very little actual analysis, the people making these evaluations take great pride in what they do and in the opinions that they form.

They were wrong about Goff for many, obvious reasons; some have even admitted it, but most, for the sake of preserving their reputations and standing among the public and their peers, feel the need to be right at any expense so their old opinions persist despite better data, or better ways of analyzing the same data, being available.

The thinking about Jared Goff is a product of this.

But you act as if the "thinking on Goff" is uniform, and uniformly bad. And that it can be explained by one massive blindspot that an entire profession has but which we (who are coincidentally fans of the guy) manage to see through.

Sorry I don't buy a word of it. cool smiley

The take on Goff is mixed and differs from source to source but it tends to put him at the edge of the top, which is pretty fair and generous frankly, for a third year young qb who had several below average games in the final stretch last year.

I think he will grow out of that kind of inconsistency, but no national pundit is obligated to see it that way. Not yet. Though the time is coming. And when it comes, any of the guys who rank him lower right now will just see it and acknowledge it.

Oh and this idea that pundits "preserve reputations" strikes me as silly. Guys admit when they're wrong and they get brownie points for doing it. But Goff and the Rams have to give them good reasons to say that. Which--again--I am confident they will.

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