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Re: I think what you might be missing

May 25, 2019 06:00PM
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Rampage2K-
What other national media guy is publicly saying he doesn't think the Rams will extend Goff??? This is not about people who have doubts because they saw a few bad games, this is about someone actually thinking he won't be extended or won't be surprised if he isn't ...that's all.

Most of the doubters like it or not are the same people who were calling him a bust in his rookie year.

Well I think it's obvious they will extend Goff. But in terms of what "people" plural say they won't, I was just responding to you--and you made it about people, plural who are doubters: "The same people who you find out there with doubts about Goff are probably the same people who were calling him a bust after his rookie year." I assumed there you meant doubts in general, not specifically claiming the Rams won't extend him. And to come down from my jokey tone ("careers at stake" ), the simple and direct point is, I don;t think anyone who doubts Goff now will be embarrassed later. The most likely thing is they will just go "oh I was wrong about Goff I guess." I think the doubts now are sincere (though I just don't agree with them) and I also think that when Goff proves them wrong they will just acknowledge it.

There are people on this board with doubts about Goff. It's not a strange thing. It doesn't have to be explained away through psych 101 stuff about avoiding embarrassment or any other devious motive.

And as it happens I am not one of them. I was in Goff's corner from just before they drafted him (when I saw it would be Goff), through 2016, through interception-gate in the summer of 2017, through the Atlanta game aftermath and the 2018 late-season slump and superbowl, and am still with him. I personally believe he will improve and I even pointed out that Brady had a slump at the end of his 3rd season too. BUT that doesn't mean I think the doubters are crazy, or warding off embarrassment, or delusional, or not real Rams fans, or deliberately being frivolous, or any of that (and you didn't say most of those things, just expanding the list). I just think he needs to be more consistent, which is a young qb issue, and I think that so far his play has gotten more erratic when he loses confidence in the OL (which is not a rare trait among qbs, even veteran ones...we've seen the Rams D cause Brees among others to see ghosts....). I think that stuff can all be made better with experience.

So we agree on Goff, which is the important part of the issue.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2019 06:02PM by zn.
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  Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

RamBill1011May 23, 2019 02:58PM

  Re: Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

zn510May 23, 2019 03:16PM

  A little Vinny on this...

Rams43477May 23, 2019 03:19PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Anonymous User457May 23, 2019 04:08PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke255May 23, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn240May 23, 2019 09:04PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User350May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

zn228May 24, 2019 10:31AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User192May 24, 2019 10:43AM

  I think people have valid points to be concerned about Goff...

jemach101May 24, 2019 01:43PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke294May 24, 2019 02:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn102May 24, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke94May 24, 2019 06:05PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn277May 24, 2019 08:11PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke193May 24, 2019 10:14PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn190May 25, 2019 07:03AM

  Losing Kupp was major. Just major.

NewMexicoRam166May 23, 2019 05:22PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

Speed_Kills206May 23, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

jim beam302May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  and the OL too

zn129May 23, 2019 09:38PM

  Re: and the OL too

waterfield124May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Excellent post

Speed_Kills316May 23, 2019 05:23PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Classicalwit139May 23, 2019 06:46PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn129May 23, 2019 09:48PM

  ok hes not perfect

PHDram167May 23, 2019 07:19PM

  I think there are two different things here.

Saguaro158May 24, 2019 04:39AM

  Re: I think there are two different things here.

zn261May 24, 2019 05:26AM

  I don't give him the same leeway you do.

Saguaro110May 24, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: I don't give him the same leeway you do.

zn117May 24, 2019 07:33AM

  Re: been saying this forever...

spagsbacker215May 23, 2019 05:04PM

  Re: been saying this forever...Actually yes it is

BumRap117May 24, 2019 09:46AM

  Beyond stupid...

Ram49142May 23, 2019 07:31PM

  Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Rampage2K-144May 23, 2019 08:06PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

zn248May 23, 2019 09:59PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Killrazor351May 24, 2019 12:47AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Speed_Kills306May 24, 2019 03:03AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Rampage2K-117May 24, 2019 05:58PM

  They are not mutually exclusive

max124May 24, 2019 04:59AM

  that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn162May 24, 2019 05:10AM

  Huh? I didn't bash the writer

max310May 24, 2019 06:50AM

  I didn't say you did

zn159May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43181May 24, 2019 08:20AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn202May 24, 2019 08:34AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43289May 24, 2019 09:01AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn101May 24, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

dzrams113May 24, 2019 01:14PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43284May 24, 2019 02:09PM

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dzrams112May 24, 2019 03:44PM

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Rams43121May 25, 2019 06:02AM

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zn130May 25, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43151May 25, 2019 08:19AM

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Rampage2K-165May 25, 2019 11:05AM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Speed_Kills151May 25, 2019 11:44AM

  Re: Agreed on this summary....

dzrams104May 25, 2019 12:04PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-210May 25, 2019 12:07PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn364May 25, 2019 12:27PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-106May 25, 2019 12:39PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn75May 25, 2019 06:00PM

  Ace in the hole

moklerman167May 25, 2019 12:54PM

  Re: Ace in the hole

Rampage2K-142May 25, 2019 01:15PM

  Good work dz.... zn too

Speed_Kills105May 25, 2019 09:51AM

  He says Dak over Goff

no name217May 24, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

Classicalwit162May 24, 2019 08:30AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn196May 24, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

max126May 24, 2019 09:07AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn131May 24, 2019 09:16AM

  2 thoughts here

max159May 25, 2019 05:00AM

  Re: 2 thoughts here

zn109May 25, 2019 06:53AM

  the Bortles treatment

max126May 25, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn223May 25, 2019 07:37AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max231May 25, 2019 08:28AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn108May 25, 2019 09:19AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max192May 25, 2019 12:21PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn214May 25, 2019 12:56PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max148May 25, 2019 01:17PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn651May 25, 2019 02:00PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max167May 25, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn173May 25, 2019 04:25PM

  Re: Why wouldn't that be expected?

dzrams192May 25, 2019 02:18PM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

dzrams241May 25, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

zn418May 25, 2019 01:12PM

  Re: He says Dak was not a 1st rounder either

BumRap183May 24, 2019 09:52AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

cool_hand_luke104May 24, 2019 02:30PM

  Totally agree

Los Angeles Lenny189May 24, 2019 10:54AM

  Me: "I would be surprised if Florio is right."

alyoshamucci219May 24, 2019 11:19AM

  Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

no name168May 24, 2019 07:32PM

  Re: Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

cool_hand_luke126May 24, 2019 09:11PM

  here is McVay on Goff recently

Rampage2K-151May 25, 2019 11:11AM