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Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

May 25, 2019 11:58AM
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Not that I agree with Florio, but he puts forth a debatable theoretical argument.

Do you pay every starter QB a big percentage of your cap if you believe you can replace him with someone as good or better at a fraction of the cost?

Goff aside, there

I know you said Goff aside but for purposes of clarity I will say at the beginning that I think Goff deserves a 2nd contract and will get one from the Rams.

But generally speaking I do believe there is soon coming a point where teams will start to change strategies on QBs where not every starting QB will automatically get extended.

In recent years there have been two significant developments. First, the rate at which QBs salaries are increasing is far outpacing the rate at which the salary cap is expanding. Over time, this is unsustainable. This factor by itself, if it continues, will eventually force something to change.

The second development is something I've mentioned over the last year and that is, good QBs no longer seem to be as rare as they once were. To be clear, the importance of the position has not gone down and will not for the foreseeable future. But the league is now full of good, young QBs.

Look at the list since 2016: Goff, Wentz, Dak, Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield, Mitch Trubisky, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold. Every one of these guys is either good already or has shown strong potential to be a franchise QB.

That's 9 franchise QBs in three years or three per year. There's also Josh Allen and Josh Rosen who are starting QBs with whom we have yet to see how they turn out. In total, that's 11 starting QBs in the last 3 drafts. I'm sorry but we can't say it's rare. It's definitely not Aaron Donald rare.

And it's gonna continue as NFL offenses continue to be led into a new era innovative minds like Pederson and McVay. The college QBs that have been successful in wide open offenses suddenly can now come to the NFL and thrive.

That opens up the QB talent pool and ultimately works to decrease the rareness of finding a franchise QB.

It is a historical fact as zn points out that starting QBs get 2nd contracts (with the exception of Bortles, more on that below.) The past is what it is. But in looking at the future and current trends, I see some changes on the horizon.

I see more teams doing like Jacksonville and moving on from their marginal starter in Bortles. One can say that he isn't a starter but that would require a subjective judgement to be true. Objectively, he has started his entire career. Therefore he is and was a starter. Yet Jax deemed him not worth it.

The clearly elite QBs will always get paid; it's the middle of the pack QBs that I think will be threatened in the near future.
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  Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

RamBill1012May 23, 2019 02:58PM

  Re: Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

zn511May 23, 2019 03:16PM

  A little Vinny on this...

Rams43477May 23, 2019 03:19PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Anonymous User458May 23, 2019 04:08PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke256May 23, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn241May 23, 2019 09:04PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User351May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

zn229May 24, 2019 10:31AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User192May 24, 2019 10:43AM

  I think people have valid points to be concerned about Goff...

jemach102May 24, 2019 01:43PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke295May 24, 2019 02:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn102May 24, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke95May 24, 2019 06:05PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn278May 24, 2019 08:11PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke194May 24, 2019 10:14PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn190May 25, 2019 07:03AM

  Losing Kupp was major. Just major.

NewMexicoRam167May 23, 2019 05:22PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

Speed_Kills207May 23, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

jim beam303May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  and the OL too

zn129May 23, 2019 09:38PM

  Re: and the OL too

waterfield125May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Excellent post

Speed_Kills317May 23, 2019 05:23PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Classicalwit139May 23, 2019 06:46PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn130May 23, 2019 09:48PM

  ok hes not perfect

PHDram168May 23, 2019 07:19PM

  I think there are two different things here.

Saguaro158May 24, 2019 04:39AM

  Re: I think there are two different things here.

zn262May 24, 2019 05:26AM

  I don't give him the same leeway you do.

Saguaro112May 24, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: I don't give him the same leeway you do.

zn117May 24, 2019 07:33AM

  Re: been saying this forever...

spagsbacker216May 23, 2019 05:04PM

  Re: been saying this forever...Actually yes it is

BumRap117May 24, 2019 09:46AM

  Beyond stupid...

Ram49143May 23, 2019 07:31PM

  Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Rampage2K-145May 23, 2019 08:06PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

zn249May 23, 2019 09:59PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Killrazor352May 24, 2019 12:47AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Speed_Kills306May 24, 2019 03:03AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Rampage2K-118May 24, 2019 05:58PM

  They are not mutually exclusive

max125May 24, 2019 04:59AM

  that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn163May 24, 2019 05:10AM

  Huh? I didn't bash the writer

max311May 24, 2019 06:50AM

  I didn't say you did

zn160May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43181May 24, 2019 08:20AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn203May 24, 2019 08:34AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43290May 24, 2019 09:01AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn102May 24, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

dzrams114May 24, 2019 01:14PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43284May 24, 2019 02:09PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

dzrams113May 24, 2019 03:44PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43122May 25, 2019 06:02AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn130May 25, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43152May 25, 2019 08:19AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rampage2K-166May 25, 2019 11:05AM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Speed_Kills152May 25, 2019 11:44AM

  Re: Agreed on this summary....

dzrams105May 25, 2019 12:04PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-211May 25, 2019 12:07PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn365May 25, 2019 12:27PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-107May 25, 2019 12:39PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn76May 25, 2019 06:00PM

  Ace in the hole

moklerman168May 25, 2019 12:54PM

  Re: Ace in the hole

Rampage2K-143May 25, 2019 01:15PM

  Good work dz.... zn too

Speed_Kills106May 25, 2019 09:51AM

  He says Dak over Goff

no name218May 24, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

Classicalwit163May 24, 2019 08:30AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn196May 24, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

max127May 24, 2019 09:07AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn132May 24, 2019 09:16AM

  2 thoughts here

max160May 25, 2019 05:00AM

  Re: 2 thoughts here

zn110May 25, 2019 06:53AM

  the Bortles treatment

max126May 25, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn224May 25, 2019 07:37AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max231May 25, 2019 08:28AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn109May 25, 2019 09:19AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max193May 25, 2019 12:21PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn215May 25, 2019 12:56PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max149May 25, 2019 01:17PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn651May 25, 2019 02:00PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max168May 25, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn174May 25, 2019 04:25PM

  Re: Why wouldn't that be expected?

dzrams193May 25, 2019 02:18PM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

dzrams241May 25, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

zn418May 25, 2019 01:12PM

  Re: He says Dak was not a 1st rounder either

BumRap183May 24, 2019 09:52AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

cool_hand_luke105May 24, 2019 02:30PM

  Totally agree

Los Angeles Lenny189May 24, 2019 10:54AM

  Me: "I would be surprised if Florio is right."

alyoshamucci220May 24, 2019 11:19AM

  Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

no name169May 24, 2019 07:32PM

  Re: Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

cool_hand_luke127May 24, 2019 09:11PM

  here is McVay on Goff recently

Rampage2K-151May 25, 2019 11:11AM