May 25, 2019 05:00AM
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Not that I agree with Florio, but he puts forth a debatable theoretical argument.

Do you pay every starter QB a big percentage of your cap if you believe you can replace him with someone as good or better at a fraction of the cost?

Goff aside, there

Well in theory, no, you don't keep a young qb if you think it is actually and immediately possible to replace him.

But the problem is, the odds of that happening are so unlikely. Lots of different stars would have to line up.

The grass is greener problem is huge here. Can you imagine the eternal reputation of a team that dumps a young starter for a new one--and it doesn't work?

Plus to even ask the question, it seems to me, gets into the "qb contracts are so big" issue. But see I don't agree with that concern. I think teams can, and do, carry a big qb contract and win. In fact they do it all the time.

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Media people and most fans believe the draft is a panacea. Every first round pick is viewed as a solution to a problem. All we hear when a guy is picked especially in the top 10 is “team x finally got their big hole fixed at position y”. So it’s understandable though erroneous to see how guys like Florio, Barnwell, et al, think it’s a good idea to move on from a QB about to get his big 2nd contract if he hasn’t looked like Mahomes or Luck. Only the Rams have to deal with the risk of the top 10 QB not being good and watching Goff develop into a top QB. What the Florio types do then is say the Rams made a poor evaluation.

OTOH, there are QBs like Winston and Mariota who may not get big 2nd contracts with their current teams, and it has much to do with spending money wisely. The cap does play into these decisions along with performance. For example, Winston or Mariota may play pretty well this year, but maybe not well enough for their teams to invest big money in them. They may get the Bortles treatment or get let go all together.



~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2019 05:01AM by max.
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  Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

RamBill1012May 23, 2019 02:58PM

  Re: Florio: I would not be surprised if Goff doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."

zn511May 23, 2019 03:16PM

  A little Vinny on this...

Rams43478May 23, 2019 03:19PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Anonymous User458May 23, 2019 04:08PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke256May 23, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn241May 23, 2019 09:04PM

  Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User351May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

zn230May 24, 2019 10:31AM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract: Well Played

Anonymous User193May 24, 2019 10:43AM

  I think people have valid points to be concerned about Goff...

jemach103May 24, 2019 01:43PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke295May 24, 2019 02:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn103May 24, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke95May 24, 2019 06:05PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn278May 24, 2019 08:11PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

cool_hand_luke194May 24, 2019 10:14PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn191May 25, 2019 07:03AM

  Losing Kupp was major. Just major.

NewMexicoRam167May 23, 2019 05:22PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

Speed_Kills208May 23, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: So he collapsed because he didn’t have Kupp?

jim beam304May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  and the OL too

zn131May 23, 2019 09:38PM

  Re: and the OL too

waterfield125May 24, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Excellent post

Speed_Kills317May 23, 2019 05:23PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

Classicalwit140May 23, 2019 06:46PM

  Re: Florio: Not surprised if Goff doesn't get a 2nd contract with Rams

zn131May 23, 2019 09:48PM

  ok hes not perfect

PHDram168May 23, 2019 07:19PM

  I think there are two different things here.

Saguaro159May 24, 2019 04:39AM

  Re: I think there are two different things here.

zn262May 24, 2019 05:26AM

  I don't give him the same leeway you do.

Saguaro112May 24, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: I don't give him the same leeway you do.

zn118May 24, 2019 07:33AM

  Re: been saying this forever...

spagsbacker216May 23, 2019 05:04PM

  Re: been saying this forever...Actually yes it is

BumRap119May 24, 2019 09:46AM

  Beyond stupid...

Ram49143May 23, 2019 07:31PM

  Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Rampage2K-146May 23, 2019 08:06PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

zn249May 23, 2019 09:59PM

  Re: Florio has to say stuff like that to stay relevant

Killrazor353May 24, 2019 12:47AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Speed_Kills308May 24, 2019 03:03AM

  Re: Now this I agree with

Rampage2K-118May 24, 2019 05:58PM

  They are not mutually exclusive

max126May 24, 2019 04:59AM

  that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn163May 24, 2019 05:10AM

  Huh? I didn't bash the writer

max312May 24, 2019 06:50AM

  I didn't say you did

zn161May 24, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43182May 24, 2019 08:20AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn203May 24, 2019 08:34AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43291May 24, 2019 09:01AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn102May 24, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

dzrams114May 24, 2019 01:14PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43285May 24, 2019 02:09PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

dzrams113May 24, 2019 03:44PM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43122May 25, 2019 06:02AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

zn132May 25, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rams43152May 25, 2019 08:19AM

  Re: that's the nature of ad hominem attacks

Rampage2K-166May 25, 2019 11:05AM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Speed_Kills152May 25, 2019 11:44AM

  Re: Agreed on this summary....

dzrams105May 25, 2019 12:04PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-211May 25, 2019 12:07PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn366May 25, 2019 12:27PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

Rampage2K-107May 25, 2019 12:39PM

  Re: I think what you might be missing

zn76May 25, 2019 06:00PM

  Ace in the hole

moklerman168May 25, 2019 12:54PM

  Re: Ace in the hole

Rampage2K-143May 25, 2019 01:15PM

  Good work dz.... zn too

Speed_Kills106May 25, 2019 09:51AM

  He says Dak over Goff

no name218May 24, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

Classicalwit163May 24, 2019 08:30AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn197May 24, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

max128May 24, 2019 09:07AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

zn132May 24, 2019 09:16AM

  2 thoughts here

max160May 25, 2019 05:00AM

  Re: 2 thoughts here

zn110May 25, 2019 06:53AM

  the Bortles treatment

max126May 25, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn224May 25, 2019 07:37AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max232May 25, 2019 08:28AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn109May 25, 2019 09:19AM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max193May 25, 2019 12:21PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn215May 25, 2019 12:56PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max149May 25, 2019 01:17PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn653May 25, 2019 02:00PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

max168May 25, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: the Bortles treatment

zn175May 25, 2019 04:25PM

  Re: Why wouldn't that be expected?

dzrams193May 25, 2019 02:18PM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

dzrams242May 25, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: Good theoretical question...one I've alluded to on here...

zn418May 25, 2019 01:12PM

  Re: He says Dak was not a 1st rounder either

BumRap184May 24, 2019 09:52AM

  Re: He says Dak over Goff

cool_hand_luke105May 24, 2019 02:30PM

  Totally agree

Los Angeles Lenny190May 24, 2019 10:54AM

  Me: "I would be surprised if Florio is right."

alyoshamucci221May 24, 2019 11:19AM

  Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

no name169May 24, 2019 07:32PM

  Re: Even if he doesn't believe in Goff

cool_hand_luke127May 24, 2019 09:11PM

  here is McVay on Goff recently

Rampage2K-152May 25, 2019 11:11AM