February 07, 2019 02:11PM
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dzrams
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RAMbler
EVERYONE is saying Goff had a bad game.... "BUT" he is NOT the only reason the Rams O was bad.

Just wow.....

I'm just pointing out that I see an incredibly high level of defensiveness when discussing him.

And literally NO ONE is saying he's the only reason the Rams O was bad.

And "defensiveness" is a psychologizing subjective move whose very rhetorical purpose is to make a distinction between the people who are "reasonable" (or whatever word you would use) and those who are "emotional."

That's a classic way to make it about the other poster's emotions. Instead of just accepting that there are different views on why Goff stumbled, and to what extent, and how much it affected the loss, and how much of it was him, and what it means. NATURALLY there are going to be different views on all those things. We don't have THAT conversation though if we keep saying things like "while yours is a dismissable emotional view as compared to my reasonable truth." Real discussion don't go like that. cool smiley

Whether or not someone is "defensive" is PURELY a subjective value judgement.

And in fact, let me say in advance, that if wanted to, I could find a way to call your (upcoming) response to THIS post "defensive."

But neither one of us SHOULD be doing that, right?

This is a real debate about real things. That will include many different views and some nuances and different interpretations.

We're all better off if we just flow with that.

Agreed? Fair enough?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2019 12:14AM by Shaky.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  anyone listen to Harris podcast?

spagsbacker666February 07, 2019 03:43AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

max309February 07, 2019 03:55AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

sfbayram139February 08, 2019 01:16AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

3030214February 07, 2019 04:08AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

Killrazor223February 07, 2019 05:17AM

  We get it.

PHDram255February 07, 2019 05:13AM

  Jared Goff was bad

den-the-coach278February 07, 2019 05:20AM

  I agree with your point but adding more

zn273February 07, 2019 05:25AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

waterfield240February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

sfbayram148February 08, 2019 01:19AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

dzrams183February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

zn188February 07, 2019 06:22AM

  Re: Well I disagree...

dzrams187February 07, 2019 06:36AM

  i hardly see it as an "attack"

PHDram200February 07, 2019 12:50PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

dzrams150February 07, 2019 02:36PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

PHDram177February 07, 2019 04:12PM

  Re: Bravo DZ!! Bravo my friend

Speed_Kills142February 07, 2019 01:06PM

  not what I see & and you can see what I see if you want to

zn260February 07, 2019 02:01PM

  Wow....

RAMbler198February 07, 2019 06:27AM

  Re: Wow..

dzrams424February 07, 2019 06:47AM

  Re: Wow...

zn172February 07, 2019 02:11PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams254February 07, 2019 02:51PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn183February 07, 2019 11:43PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams146February 08, 2019 10:38AM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn120February 08, 2019 12:45PM

  Re: Wow....

sfbayram145February 08, 2019 01:28AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

PHDram145February 07, 2019 09:17AM

  PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler274February 07, 2019 06:16AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn249February 07, 2019 06:24AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler225February 07, 2019 07:28AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn170February 07, 2019 02:23PM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

ferragamo79228February 07, 2019 07:35AM

  Same here. One of the other gems

Ram_Ruler155February 07, 2019 09:10AM

  struggled early but came through when the game was on the line

PHDram197February 07, 2019 09:25AM

  Agree, mostly due to same old 11 Offense and no Plan B.

BC Ramsfan225February 07, 2019 03:23PM

  Link to Harris Podcast....whoever he is

RamBill149February 07, 2019 03:46PM

  This whole discussion seems overboard to me

waterfield216February 08, 2019 10:56AM