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Re: Well I disagree...

February 07, 2019 06:36AM
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Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start?????

First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out it means the poster doesn't like Goff.

It's ridiculous! Goff didn't play well. Period!
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BS my friend.

No one on the face of the earth is saying Goff DID NOT play poorly.

Though that particular misread keeps rearing its ugly head

The actual dispute, which is the real thing behind the surface thing you think you see, is this--it;s a debate over why he played poorly.

Dismissing that with some kind of "motives thing" aimed at the "sensitivity" of the other side just muddies the conversation up more. It's not helping. It's more of the same.

Going forward, know at least this much--no one has once denied Goff played poorly, and to continue acting like someone did IS the problem with the conversation.

The issue is why.

And there are different views of that.

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I see opinions in this thread that are very defensive. One implies that a guys expert opinion that Goff had a bad game is invalid because he's been wrong on QBs before. Another attacks the poster and suggests he doesn't like Goff because of posts stating that Goff had a bad game. One game.

IMO, the level of defensiveness I've seen regarding Goff is a problem. It precludes us from having a productive conversation about him.

So I call BS on your BS call. You may feel like there's a different problem. That's fine. I'm not invalidating your opinion.
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  anyone listen to Harris podcast?

spagsbacker662February 07, 2019 03:43AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

max308February 07, 2019 03:55AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

sfbayram137February 08, 2019 01:16AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

3030213February 07, 2019 04:08AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

Killrazor222February 07, 2019 05:17AM

  We get it.

PHDram254February 07, 2019 05:13AM

  Jared Goff was bad

den-the-coach277February 07, 2019 05:20AM

  I agree with your point but adding more

zn272February 07, 2019 05:25AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

waterfield239February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

sfbayram145February 08, 2019 01:19AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

dzrams182February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

zn187February 07, 2019 06:22AM

  Re: Well I disagree...

dzrams185February 07, 2019 06:36AM

  i hardly see it as an "attack"

PHDram199February 07, 2019 12:50PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

dzrams148February 07, 2019 02:36PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

PHDram175February 07, 2019 04:12PM

  Re: Bravo DZ!! Bravo my friend

Speed_Kills141February 07, 2019 01:06PM

  not what I see & and you can see what I see if you want to

zn259February 07, 2019 02:01PM

  Wow....

RAMbler197February 07, 2019 06:27AM

  Re: Wow..

dzrams423February 07, 2019 06:47AM

  Re: Wow...

zn170February 07, 2019 02:11PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams253February 07, 2019 02:51PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn182February 07, 2019 11:43PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams145February 08, 2019 10:38AM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn119February 08, 2019 12:45PM

  Re: Wow....

sfbayram143February 08, 2019 01:28AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

PHDram144February 07, 2019 09:17AM

  PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler273February 07, 2019 06:16AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn248February 07, 2019 06:24AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler224February 07, 2019 07:28AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn169February 07, 2019 02:23PM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

ferragamo79227February 07, 2019 07:35AM

  Same here. One of the other gems

Ram_Ruler154February 07, 2019 09:10AM

  struggled early but came through when the game was on the line

PHDram196February 07, 2019 09:25AM

  Agree, mostly due to same old 11 Offense and no Plan B.

BC Ramsfan223February 07, 2019 03:23PM

  Link to Harris Podcast....whoever he is

RamBill148February 07, 2019 03:46PM

  This whole discussion seems overboard to me

waterfield215February 08, 2019 10:56AM