February 07, 2019 06:36AM
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Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start?????

First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out it means the poster doesn't like Goff.

It's ridiculous! Goff didn't play well. Period!
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BS my friend.

No one on the face of the earth is saying Goff DID NOT play poorly.

Though that particular misread keeps rearing its ugly head

The actual dispute, which is the real thing behind the surface thing you think you see, is this--it;s a debate over why he played poorly.

Dismissing that with some kind of "motives thing" aimed at the "sensitivity" of the other side just muddies the conversation up more. It's not helping. It's more of the same.

Going forward, know at least this much--no one has once denied Goff played poorly, and to continue acting like someone did IS the problem with the conversation.

The issue is why.

And there are different views of that.

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I see opinions in this thread that are very defensive. One implies that a guys expert opinion that Goff had a bad game is invalid because he's been wrong on QBs before. Another attacks the poster and suggests he doesn't like Goff because of posts stating that Goff had a bad game. One game.

IMO, the level of defensiveness I've seen regarding Goff is a problem. It precludes us from having a productive conversation about him.

So I call BS on your BS call. You may feel like there's a different problem. That's fine. I'm not invalidating your opinion.
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  anyone listen to Harris podcast?

spagsbacker665February 07, 2019 03:43AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

max309February 07, 2019 03:55AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

sfbayram138February 08, 2019 01:16AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

3030214February 07, 2019 04:08AM

  Re: anyone listen to Harris podcast?

Killrazor223February 07, 2019 05:17AM

  We get it.

PHDram255February 07, 2019 05:13AM

  Jared Goff was bad

den-the-coach278February 07, 2019 05:20AM

  I agree with your point but adding more

zn273February 07, 2019 05:25AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

waterfield240February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: I agree with your point but adding more

sfbayram147February 08, 2019 01:19AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

dzrams183February 07, 2019 06:18AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

zn188February 07, 2019 06:22AM

  Re: Well I disagree...

dzrams186February 07, 2019 06:36AM

  i hardly see it as an "attack"

PHDram200February 07, 2019 12:50PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

dzrams149February 07, 2019 02:36PM

  Re: This does require clarification...

PHDram176February 07, 2019 04:12PM

  Re: Bravo DZ!! Bravo my friend

Speed_Kills142February 07, 2019 01:06PM

  not what I see & and you can see what I see if you want to

zn260February 07, 2019 02:01PM

  Wow....

RAMbler198February 07, 2019 06:27AM

  Re: Wow..

dzrams424February 07, 2019 06:47AM

  Re: Wow...

zn172February 07, 2019 02:11PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams253February 07, 2019 02:51PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn183February 07, 2019 11:43PM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

dzrams146February 08, 2019 10:38AM

  Re: We are on the same page my friend!!...

zn120February 08, 2019 12:45PM

  Re: Wow....

sfbayram144February 08, 2019 01:28AM

  Re: Totally agree with this...

PHDram145February 07, 2019 09:17AM

  PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler274February 07, 2019 06:16AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn249February 07, 2019 06:24AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

Ram_Ruler225February 07, 2019 07:28AM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

zn170February 07, 2019 02:23PM

  Re: PFF had a different analysis

ferragamo79228February 07, 2019 07:35AM

  Same here. One of the other gems

Ram_Ruler155February 07, 2019 09:10AM

  struggled early but came through when the game was on the line

PHDram197February 07, 2019 09:25AM

  Agree, mostly due to same old 11 Offense and no Plan B.

BC Ramsfan224February 07, 2019 03:23PM

  Link to Harris Podcast....whoever he is

RamBill149February 07, 2019 03:46PM

  This whole discussion seems overboard to me

waterfield216February 08, 2019 10:56AM