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Re: ESPN new OL / DL stats, Havenstein #1

October 05, 2018 05:29AM
Well, except...he just isn't. A top OT.

He is playing in a good scheme which is maximizing him. There's excellent unit synergy and these guys understand what Kromer is teaching them as players and as unit. But given that Hav just does not have the physical talent you expect to find in a true top OT.. Not that he's a bum. And I personally like the guy. But in terms of his raw talent level, he's basically inherently solid. By way of analogy, Josh McCown has done well in certain schemes but he's not an elite qb regardless.

What this year's line play tells me, at least until they play a top DL, is that Kromer could pick all sorts of guys to play ROG and ROT for him, and he would be able to maximize them too. They would have to be fits in terms of some major characteristics (intelligence, work ethic, mentality, basic physical skill)...but Kromer can (and has) done well with guys who are just basic fits and not genuinely top physical talents at their positions.

Which just reminds me that they could replace both ROG and ROT and get better value at ROT rather than make Hav one of the big contracts they have to handle in 2021 .when Goff comes up. There are better choices for positions where you might want to do that, rather than ROT, which is widely known to be a relatively easy position to find players.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2018 05:36AM by zn.
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  ESPN new OL / DL stats, Havenstein #1

max909October 05, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: ESPN new OL / DL stats, Havenstein #1

zn306October 05, 2018 05:29AM

  Re: ESPN new OL / DL stats, Havenstein #1

Steve241October 05, 2018 05:51AM

  I think Hav's new contract says that the Rams wouldn't agree with you

RockRam258October 05, 2018 06:18AM

  Re: I think Hav's new contract says that the Rams wouldn't agree with you

Rams43204October 05, 2018 06:35AM

  and then the question is are the Rams right about that and if so why

zn214October 05, 2018 08:33AM

  Yes they are right.

RockRam317October 05, 2018 10:33AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

zn195October 05, 2018 11:34AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

moklerman146October 06, 2018 05:40AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

zn135October 06, 2018 05:56AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

moklerman187October 06, 2018 06:38AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

zn143October 06, 2018 07:30AM

  Re: Yes they are right.

moklerman139October 06, 2018 11:47AM

  Re: Please define "Scheme" "System".....Because to me it means "playing football."

oldschoolramfan172October 05, 2018 06:53AM

  but it doesnt' mean that

zn179October 05, 2018 08:35AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

max151October 05, 2018 08:38AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn174October 05, 2018 08:47AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFootballFans.com150October 05, 2018 08:59AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn166October 05, 2018 09:08AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

Rams43155October 05, 2018 09:31AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFootballFans.com147October 05, 2018 10:18AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

Rampage2K-147October 05, 2018 10:22AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn212October 05, 2018 11:41AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

Rams43299October 05, 2018 12:43PM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn168October 05, 2018 03:38PM

  Hav is 26 years old

max177October 05, 2018 03:44PM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

Rams43144October 05, 2018 09:25AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFanSinceLA162October 05, 2018 10:18AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFootballFans.com162October 05, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn194October 05, 2018 10:49AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFanSinceLA141October 05, 2018 11:36AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn242October 05, 2018 12:27PM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

RamsFanSinceLA142October 05, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn146October 06, 2018 05:27AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

SoCalRAMatic137October 06, 2018 05:57AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

zn144October 06, 2018 06:10AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

moklerman144October 06, 2018 11:55AM

  Gonna keep this simple...

Rams43141October 06, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Gonna keep this simple...

zn166October 06, 2018 09:13AM

  Re: Gonna keep this simple...

Rams43144October 06, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Gonna keep this simple...

max159October 06, 2018 10:32AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

max142October 05, 2018 11:05AM

  Nonsense. "System" OT. (nm)

BigGame81134October 05, 2018 09:16AM

  no one said that

zn158October 05, 2018 09:56AM

  Re: no one said that

BigGame81160October 05, 2018 10:51AM

  a different way to approach it

zn150October 05, 2018 03:00PM

  Re: a different way to approach it

max145October 05, 2018 03:39PM

  Re: a different way to approach it

zn148October 05, 2018 03:42PM

  Re: a different way to approach it

max174October 05, 2018 03:45PM

  Re: a different way to approach it

zn151October 05, 2018 03:53PM

  didnt work out too well for seattle

Hazlet Hacksaw149October 06, 2018 06:23AM

  Re: didnt work out too well for seattle

zn158October 06, 2018 07:34AM

  Havenstein has been worth EVERY PENNY the Rams gave him

Anonymous User209October 06, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: Havenstein has been worth EVERY PENNY the Rams gave him

Speedball89294October 06, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: Havenstein has been worth EVERY PENNY the Rams gave him

zn179October 06, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: Havenstein has been worth EVERY PENNY the Rams gave him

Anonymous User268October 06, 2018 10:10AM