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October 05, 2018 09:08AM
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Show me any sort of evidence that indicates Hav has the talent of a top OT. ....

His play on the field.

Many players have all kinds of talent but aren't tops at their position....cause despite their talent they can't play at a high level.

Who cares if Rob isn't fleet a foot and super athletic....he flat out can plat at a high level.

He did exactly the same thing at Wisconson....looked like a cinder block played like a top right tackle in the nation.


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And if as I said his play on the field is the result of a solid player being maximized by a top coach---then no he is not unexpendable. Kromer can find another guy who like Hav is solid, smart, and coachable---and is NOT inherently a top talent

If you can find another guy (which is relatively much easier at ROT) then why give a big contract to THIS particular solid and coachable ROT.

Here's why this is even an issue.

You only get so many top contract guys under the cap. If you sign one guy you eventually lose another. And odds are, the guy they lose because they signed Hav plays a position that is harder to replace (especially for Kromer) than ROT.

I care that Hav is not fleet of foot and super athletic because it means he can be replaced by ANOTHER solid ROT who is not fleet of foot or super athletic, and is also smart and coachable. ROTs who fit that description are not rare. If Kromer did it with one (and really it's a long list going back several years and more than just one) he can do it with another.

And then you can spend a big contract on a player at another position that is typically harder to replace.

Signing Hav means you let that other guy go eventually.

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  ESPN new OL / DL stats, Havenstein #1

max910October 05, 2018 05:15AM

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Steve242October 05, 2018 05:51AM

  I think Hav's new contract says that the Rams wouldn't agree with you

RockRam258October 05, 2018 06:18AM

  Re: I think Hav's new contract says that the Rams wouldn't agree with you

Rams43205October 05, 2018 06:35AM

  and then the question is are the Rams right about that and if so why

zn214October 05, 2018 08:33AM

  Yes they are right.

RockRam319October 05, 2018 10:33AM

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  Re: Please define "Scheme" "System".....Because to me it means "playing football."

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  but it doesnt' mean that

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zn169October 05, 2018 03:38PM

  Hav is 26 years old

max178October 05, 2018 03:44PM

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zn144October 06, 2018 06:10AM

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moklerman144October 06, 2018 11:55AM

  Gonna keep this simple...

Rams43142October 06, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Gonna keep this simple...

zn167October 06, 2018 09:13AM

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max159October 06, 2018 10:32AM

  Re: but it doesnt' mean that

max143October 05, 2018 11:05AM

  Nonsense. "System" OT. (nm)

BigGame81134October 05, 2018 09:16AM

  no one said that

zn159October 05, 2018 09:56AM

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BigGame81160October 05, 2018 10:51AM

  a different way to approach it

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zn151October 05, 2018 03:53PM

  didnt work out too well for seattle

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zn158October 06, 2018 07:34AM

  Havenstein has been worth EVERY PENNY the Rams gave him

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