July 28, 2018 01:26PM
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Ekern55
I am an agent, but not a sports agent. There is no theoretical conspiracy here. That's how agents talk, no matter what we're selling. So, I'm not anti-agent. I know how we think.

My only guiding principle in these types of discussions is reality. And the reality here is who gets paid ultimately. There's too many red flags in what France has done with Donald to think France first and foremost wants Donald to get paid. What will make France more in the long run? The commission he makes off of the contract of $25 million per year of whatever quarterback money France can get him? Or can he make more by representing multiple clients under a new CBA that puts the owners in a sellers' market?

I see no red flags in anything Donald has done. (I also don't see how agents can change the CBA. And even if they could, one firm alone won't do that.) I also don't see how a very rare, generational player like Donald can upset the entire apple cart. What, is he paving the way for all the many Donalds that will follow him? The last player in the league in his class at DT was Sapp, and he retired 7 years before Donald was drafted,

I don't see any of that. I see a team making an offer that is too low given all the parameters. And an agent whose demand is at the other extreme.

That never happens? 2 extremes and then they work out a balance everyone can live with?

I also don't think 25 M is qb money. Not that he will get 25 M as I just said, but 25 M stopped being qb money when Cousins got 28 M. In terms of that, Suh already broke the "qb barrier" in 2015 when his 19 M a year was more than a lot of starting qbs at the time and the ones above him were like just 1 or 2 M different. So as a rule, I am generally not all that responsive to the "he can't have qb money" thing. I think that's a mystificaton of what's really going on. And again, not that there's any chance of Donald getting that. It' s just a thing I notice.

I've had several "contract discussions" over the years, starting with Faulk's hold out in 99 before his new deal, and then Warner's contract battle in 2000 when Zygmunt was publicly saying they didn't know if he was worth top end money because he had only done it one year. In the middle of all that, I never get into discussions of agents commissions. That to me just sounds way too much like scapegoating. You're an agent, you said .Are you solely into it to rip people off and drive up commissions and generally be the kind of bad guy parasite that gets evoked in discussions like this?





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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/28/2018 01:35PM by zn.
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  Aaron Donald is digging in...

Rams431166July 27, 2018 07:46PM

  According to this Donald lost a year

Speedball89425July 27, 2018 09:57PM

  Re: Yes....NM

dzrams299July 27, 2018 10:07PM

  Re: Thanks....NM

Speedball89290July 27, 2018 10:26PM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

David Deacon328July 28, 2018 02:35AM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

GlacieRam251July 28, 2018 04:08AM

  LOL "we not me" with SUH????

RFIP310July 28, 2018 04:25AM

  He certainly was the dirtiest player

RamUK276July 28, 2018 04:52AM

  Re: He certainly was the dirtiest player

RFIP211July 28, 2018 05:19AM

  Re: He certainly was the dirtiest player

zn214July 28, 2018 05:41AM

  Re: He certainly was the dirtiest player

RFIP269July 28, 2018 05:50AM

  Re: He certainly was the dirtiest player

zn245July 28, 2018 05:58AM

  Fearsome THREEsome....indeed!!!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus230July 28, 2018 06:27AM

  Re: He certainly was the dirtiest player

Rams43366July 28, 2018 06:39AM

  I dunno man.

RamUK262July 28, 2018 07:08AM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

Ekern55251July 28, 2018 08:58AM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

zn245July 28, 2018 09:21AM

  The relevant history is this

CeeZar382July 28, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: The relevant history is this

Ekern55186July 28, 2018 12:02PM

  he doesn't care

zn178July 28, 2018 12:06PM

  Re: he doesn't care

Rams43167July 28, 2018 12:23PM

  sadly

CeeZar168July 28, 2018 12:54PM

  Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil....

Rampage2K-164July 28, 2018 02:35PM

  Just out of curiosity Why wouldn't he be traded?

Atlantic Ram279July 28, 2018 06:41PM

  Re: Just out of curiosity Why wouldn't he be traded?

Rams43199July 28, 2018 07:25PM

  Re: Just out of curiosity Why wouldn't he be traded?

Atlantic Ram189July 28, 2018 07:51PM

  Re: Just out of curiosity Why wouldn't he be traded?

Rams43312July 28, 2018 10:12PM

  Re: he doesn't care

Ekern55438July 28, 2018 12:52PM

  Re: he doesn't care

zn182July 28, 2018 01:02PM

  Re: he doesn't care

Ekern55197July 28, 2018 01:15PM

  Good stuff

CeeZar168July 28, 2018 01:24PM

  Re: he doesn't care

zn174July 28, 2018 01:26PM

  Re: he doesn't care

Ekern55177July 28, 2018 02:07PM

  Re: he doesn't care

zn184July 28, 2018 02:20PM

  oh, and

zn221July 28, 2018 03:12PM

  Re: oh, and

Ekern55236July 28, 2018 08:49PM

  Re: oh, and

zn157July 29, 2018 07:35AM

  Re: he doesn't care

Ramsdude182July 28, 2018 02:28PM

  Re: he doesn't care

Ekern55204July 28, 2018 02:49PM

  +1 thanks 55

ferragamo79158July 28, 2018 04:10PM

  Great post

Speedball89220July 28, 2018 05:04PM

  Re: It depends....

dzrams169July 28, 2018 07:58PM

  Re: It depends....

Ekern55218July 28, 2018 09:06PM

  Talk like a duck

BC Ramsfan191July 28, 2018 09:55PM

  that to me anyway is the very essence of this theory

zn198July 30, 2018 05:58PM

  Very interesting. Please post more often. I'm reading. nm

Saguaro156July 28, 2018 02:42PM

  Re: The relevant history is this

dzrams153July 28, 2018 06:42PM

  The takeaway is this

CeeZar220July 29, 2018 03:53AM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

Rams43164July 28, 2018 11:26AM

  these things can be misleading

zn239July 28, 2018 05:33AM

  Re: these things can be misleading

Atlantic Ram287July 28, 2018 06:52AM

  Re: Aaron Donald will be a RAM......

oldschoolramfan269July 28, 2018 06:56AM

  Re: Aaron Donald will be a RAM......

Rams43302July 28, 2018 11:46AM

  Not sure about Cooks/Woods

CeeZar177July 28, 2018 11:52AM

  Re: Not sure about Cooks/Woods

Rams43183July 28, 2018 12:09PM

  Rams saw this coming.....signing Suh was brilliant move

Rampage2K-792July 28, 2018 08:40AM

  Re: Rams saw this coming.....signing Suh was brilliant move

napoli285July 28, 2018 09:25AM

  Rams saw this coming: Signing Suh was brilliant move

Anonymous User608July 28, 2018 09:43AM

  Good post.

Atlantic Ram279July 28, 2018 06:50PM

  Re: Good post.

leafnose228July 29, 2018 03:50AM

  Right and he really hasn’t held out yet.

Atlantic Ram191July 30, 2018 10:21AM

  So the Rams lied...

jemach253July 30, 2018 10:51AM

  Re: So the Rams lied...

Rampage2K-210July 30, 2018 03:36PM

  Ya know...no...

jemach177July 30, 2018 04:11PM

  Re: Aaron Donald is digging in...

Ramsdude467July 28, 2018 03:24PM