June 25, 2018 05:30AM
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CeeZar
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CROMWELL21
Oh, c’mon...

5 years for $110 million with $70 million guaranteed is hardly a disrespectful OR lowball offer.

And you’ve personalized this negotiation far too much. Terms like disrespect, lowball, and AD “problem” are too emotional. It’s just business. Both sides are trying to protect their own best interests and at a very high stakes level, at that.

When players hold out of training camp, preseason, OTAs etc. during contract negotiations or disputes, other players, coaches, team mgmt, agent, and MOST fans realize it is all about the business side of the sport. IF the Rams tag AD twice and let him walk (which I REALLY hope is not what happens) it will be a business decision (wise or not) and will be viewed that way by the professionals.

And no one knows that WAS the offer.

I am not sure why anyone assumes it was.

And business includes things like players asking too much, teams offering too little (and us not knowing which it is). Teams make mistakes like that doing business. It happens. So do players.

If the Rams try to tag Donald it will be a lowball (that's just pure math, the tag amount is a lowball--that is an objective fact) and my bet is he demands a trade and the Rams will have no choice but to trade him.

That's all speculation right now, on every bit of it. Except the tag amount. That's a lowball compared to Donald's market range That's purely factual.

I don't agree with you though that the Rams tagging Donald would be seen as a pure business decision. It will be a morale issue having to do with how the Rams treat a great player who did everything right on and off the field. It will have an effect on how the front office is seen. I doubt most people in the league shrug and go "it's business." Still speculation on both sides (you and me both) BUT it will be seen as bad business. It will not sit well.

Since we all really know nothing, to me, a balanced discussion will include all sides of this.

So I see some people assuming it's the player and that treating him badly is "business." Well there are other views on that. A balanced account includes those other views.

It really is possible the Rams could screw this up. That's whether any of us like to hear that or not. So that actually IS one of the possibilities. If we're going to name some of the possibilities we might as well name others.

That;s one of the many things on all sides that has to be said if the conversation is going to be genuinely far-ranging and balanced.








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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2018 05:37AM by zn.
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  Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

Rams43659June 24, 2018 01:04PM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

CROMWELL21299June 24, 2018 01:41PM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

CROMWELL21272June 24, 2018 01:43PM

  Re: im down with this....

spagsbacker311June 25, 2018 02:11AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

zn269June 24, 2018 05:08PM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

Rams43341June 24, 2018 05:31PM

  correctamundo. bidnez is bidnez

CeeZar332June 25, 2018 05:23AM

  Re: correctamundo. bidnez is bidnez

zn204June 25, 2018 05:30AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

3030310June 24, 2018 06:32PM

  some will see it like that some won't because we actually KNOW nothing

zn440June 24, 2018 06:39PM

  Re: some will see it like that some won't because we actually KNOW nothing

reggae291June 24, 2018 07:15PM

  This isn't about the money

RamUK295June 24, 2018 02:06PM

  well, it IS about the money

CeeZar295June 24, 2018 02:21PM

  Yes, 43.

Saguaro286June 24, 2018 06:49PM

  Re: Yes, 43.

bigjimram21277June 24, 2018 10:14PM

  Thank you Demoff...

jemach249June 25, 2018 05:46AM

  Re: Thank you Demoff...

Rams43221June 25, 2018 08:03AM

  it;s my feeling that many people just naturally take sides on this

zn207June 25, 2018 08:15AM

  The third option

AlbaNY_Ram243June 25, 2018 09:18AM

  Re: The third option

Rams43227June 25, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: The third option

CeeZar187June 25, 2018 10:16AM

  Re: The third option

zn178June 25, 2018 10:20AM

  Re: The third option

AlbaNY_Ram205June 25, 2018 10:44AM

  What I find interesting on this entire discussion....

roman18209June 25, 2018 11:27AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts about the AD negotiations...

Ken235June 25, 2018 10:56AM

  I'm glad you asked!!

AlbaNY_Ram229June 25, 2018 11:17AM