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April 04, 2018 07:40AM
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draft trades free agency....been saying it for years

I think the draft is overrated, Rams success rate on first rounders for 40 years is less than 40%......look at their draft history
different GMs, coaches etc.

2nd round for every I Bruce we get a Quick or Pead...cheap labor yes, but they don't help the team

then i hear the argument if 4th rounders dont make the team....oh yeah success rate for a 4th rounder is 10% (or whatever low # you put in there).
So you have to do these things...good teams do.

Talib will be gone 2 years, Suh probably....frees cap space to pick up more free agents....problem solved....keep drafting and hope a few players stick

One is the DPOY.

I don't understand you trying to use the Rams draft results as an indicator that the first round is overrated. That doesn't make any sense.

SF, Dallas, GB, Pitt and Seattle all built their dominant teams through the draft.

That's how you build for the long term!

None of the teams you cite have won anything in forever.

Things have changed since the 2011 CBA.

Winning teams are building more and more through trades and free agency.

Look at Philly. Multiple trades and free agents.

NE has been doing trades and smart short term free agent pick ups for a while now.

The GB and Pitt model of only building through the draft is outdated. Obsolete!

I certainly didn't say that I have anything against trades, that's ridiculous BUT I maintain that you build long term success through the draft.

You cite the Patriots a lot as an example of how to do things.

WHY are they stockpiling draft picks every year? They fill in players through trades to compensate for their poor drafting.

But the players that drive that engine were draft picks.

The Cowboys, SF, Pitt model is NOT obsolete.

Seattle came closes to it that we've seen other than the Pats and they did it through the draft.

So that model is not obsolete, what's obsolete IS dynasties in football.

Just because things have changed doesn't mean that they have changed for the better!!

This Rams team is built primary through the draft.

Goff, Gurley, AD, Kupp, 3/5 of the OL, the TE's, the DL, the LB's, both safties...all through the draft.

The Pats had not been stockpiling draft picks prior to this year. They only had 4 last year. Why? Because they traded them away.

If the Rams fill in through trades to supplement their good drafting, that's even better than what the Pats are doing.

Smart teams are using trades because the trade market is undervalued and underutilized.

Whether things have changed for the better or not I don't know. I just know that since the '11 CBA, the way successful teams are building has drastically changed.

Fortunately, Snead is aware of this and has the Rams on the cutting edge of team building methods.

Let's see bout dat...

Pats draft picks

2016: 9 picks
2015: 11 picks
2014: 9 picks
2010: 12 picks

Had not stockpiled draft picks prior to last season?

Looks like you got that thang the other way around padna! lol3

Read what you wrote:

"WHY are they stockpiling draft picks every year?"

I pointed out that that is not true since they have had thin drafts in the past - 2017 being a recent example - due to trading their picks for vets.

But this little sub issue is an aside from the main point anyway. You also wrote that the players that drive the engine were draft picks. That was the main point and even came bolded.

And since it is true that draft picks are the engine for this Rams team, I'd say the Rams are primarily building through the draft. It's telling you didn't dispute this.

You realize that you're fighting a losing battle on that grounds so conveniently move the focus to a technical aspect. I'm not falling for that trick! LoL...
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  Where's the fire?

Deadpool863April 03, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: Yeah that question has been raised...

laram514April 03, 2018 06:06PM

  Sorry brother

Deadpool307April 03, 2018 06:20PM

  Re: LoL....

laram338April 03, 2018 06:23PM

  just pulled this bad boy last night in a 7 degree snow storm

Deadpool263April 03, 2018 06:53PM

  Re: Cool Dead thanks...NM

laram267April 03, 2018 06:54PM

  Re: Yeah that question has been raised...

The_Zone253April 03, 2018 07:45PM

  Rams have become the Redskins from back in the day

Speedball89267April 03, 2018 06:12PM

  its not even that

Deadpool380April 03, 2018 06:27PM

  how has that worked last 30 years

ferragamo79285April 03, 2018 06:33PM

  so you are good with a 2 year window and back to rebuilding?

Deadpool227April 03, 2018 06:43PM

  why is it rebuilding

ferragamo79228April 03, 2018 06:49PM

  We'll Be Reloading, Not Rebuilding!

RamBill320April 03, 2018 06:53PM

  again with the "we don't even know if a first rounder makes the team"

Deadpool235April 03, 2018 07:00PM

  not necessarily...I dont care where a player is drafted

ferragamo79368April 03, 2018 07:10PM

  yet the top 3 players on this team were 1st rounders

Deadpool302April 03, 2018 07:30PM

  Re: so you are good with a 2 year window and back to rebuilding?

Rams43229April 03, 2018 07:03PM

  Of course you do 43

Deadpool219April 03, 2018 07:15PM

  @ Deadpool isn

ferragamo79353April 03, 2018 07:40PM

  what now

Deadpool224April 03, 2018 07:59PM

  Re: Of course you do 43

Rams43223April 03, 2018 07:42PM

  I have given Snead the benefit of the doubt

Deadpool204April 03, 2018 08:13PM

  Re: I have given Snead the benefit of the doubt

Rams43416April 03, 2018 08:16PM

  you say that now but I have bad news for you

Deadpool378April 03, 2018 08:22PM

  Re: you say that now but I have bad news for you

Rams43226April 03, 2018 08:31PM

  TY sir

Deadpool211April 03, 2018 08:32PM

  It was Cooks before Watkins..

OzRam185April 04, 2018 05:39AM

  Re: Cooks had a legitimate gripe...

dzrams246April 03, 2018 07:54PM

  But are you going to be ok

Deadpool300April 03, 2018 08:04PM

  Re: But are you going to be ok

Rams43214April 03, 2018 08:12PM

  That I agree on

Deadpool281April 03, 2018 08:14PM

  Re: Gelled????

dzrams217April 03, 2018 08:13PM

  good points

Deadpool279April 03, 2018 08:20PM

  Re: good points

dzrams229April 03, 2018 08:34PM

  Denver had some darn good LBers

Deadpool213April 03, 2018 08:44PM

  Re: Yes, they did...but

dzrams291April 03, 2018 08:53PM

  Not Like George Allen Skins At All

RamBill386April 03, 2018 06:41PM

  Re: Rams have become the Redskins--another perspective w/o detail

Steve262April 03, 2018 08:08PM

  combination approach

ferragamo79223April 03, 2018 06:32PM

  Re: And yet their best players on both sides are draft picks...

laram530April 03, 2018 06:44PM

  Re: And only Seattle has won anything...

dzrams220April 03, 2018 07:10PM

  Re: Well first nobody said "only"...

laram218April 04, 2018 05:41AM

  Re: Well then you should have no complaints...

dzrams172April 04, 2018 05:56AM

  Re: Welp....

laram200April 04, 2018 06:10AM

  Re: Not taking the bait!...

dzrams320April 04, 2018 07:40AM

  Re: Not taking the bait!...

laram205April 04, 2018 08:53AM

  dated model

ferragamo79220April 03, 2018 07:14PM

  NFL Not For Long

Rams_81223April 03, 2018 06:38PM

  ugh...so right nm

ferragamo79350April 03, 2018 06:40PM

  So you think this year is the norm?

Deadpool242April 03, 2018 07:08PM

  Re: Where's the fire?

Ram1380211April 03, 2018 06:54PM

  It’s called taking advantage of rookie QB contract.

Rampage2K-222April 03, 2018 07:15PM

  Re: 2020...Goff!

dzrams226April 03, 2018 07:30PM

  it;s not win right now & it;s not at all costs

zn276April 03, 2018 07:37PM

  Re: it;s not win right now & it;s not at all costs

OzRam186April 04, 2018 05:30AM

  It's in the fevered brain of every fan who could have done all this so much better. nm.

Saguaro165April 04, 2018 05:44AM

  In my own opinion

Los Angeles Lenny158April 04, 2018 09:03AM