March 23, 2018 12:19PM
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dzrams
Why don't you tell me the other side; why it will work? Why would Wade be pursuing this?

IF you have a high character guy who wants to do grunt work, physical, tough grunt work as a nose tackle then you can plug someone in there. In 1983 the Rams moved Jack Youngblood to 3-4 4-tech (head up on tackle) from his outside 4-3 position. He was 33 years old and too small they said.

Rams were 2nd in NFL in yards per rush in 1983 and 1984 and Youngblood had 20 sacks in those two years before his back went out.

It worked, and people said it wouldn't. Why did it work? because of will, desire and hard work and unselfishness.

Suh, as a nose would have to take a double-team more often than ever, and that is not his forte, but let's say he works on it. He'd he have to hold his spot and try to move his guy back almost every time, with few opportunities to "slip" a blocker because it leaves too big a gap.

In nickel, it would work, and I have said that from the beginning, Rams use 4-man line in nickel, and he and Donald would be able to rush the passer as DTs in a 4-man line, sending Brockers to the bench.

If Rams or Titans were to play Suh as a DE, head-up or outside shade of a tackle, it could work but even less of a chance...Suh is not a long-armed guy, he has average arms and the technique used to play (watch Brockers) requires the DE to strike the tackle with both hands and try to stalemate him and push him back. Tackles are different body types, they have longer arms and they could more easily win the stalemate because of that. They would also be bigger than Suh, and while he has a strength advantage over guards, he would have it with tackles.

So, as a NT? Could it work? If he's got the desire to relearn things and use his skills to play a different technique and make different reads than he has for 8 years, it could. Nose is a stay at home position, by and large. Yes, a little penetration is good, but you don't want a NT getting upfield like Donald because it leaves running lanes.

My original point was Rams would too smart to fall for this and that they wouldn't be interested because they could see these issues. But they are clearly interested. Why Wade would like it? Coaches like toys, maybe he sees Suh as someone who will come in and use great talent at nose and give the Rams a nose tackle like his father had in Curley Culp. Culp was a stong, short-armed guy and became great when he played NT. My view is this is not 1975 and lighting may only strike once in that regard.
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  Re: Reasons for, against Ndamukong Suh signing with Rams, Saints or Titans

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  Re: Signing $$$ for Donald would force that wouldn't it?...NM

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  I guess if he's signing for $25 million a year nm

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  Re: Between Donald, draft picks and Suh, not far-fetched...NM

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  A very fair presentation, IMO...

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  Bottom line: who the heck knows what Suh is REALLY looking for

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  Re: Negative....

laram337March 22, 2018 12:32PM

  Sure they do. If not, they'd be stupid. (nm)

RockRam195March 22, 2018 01:44PM

  Re: Sure they do. If not, they'd be stupid

Ramboni248March 22, 2018 05:32PM

  Re: Bottom line: who the heck knows what Suh is REALLY looking for

Billy_T229March 22, 2018 12:47PM

  Plus

Blue and Gold218March 22, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: Good point buddy! lol...

laram258March 22, 2018 12:55PM

  What???

RockRam209March 22, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: What???

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  People v. Benjamin Perez

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  reminds me of a couple years ago

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  IMO some just want to sign a big name player....

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  Suh fits Saints well

Blue and Gold302March 22, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: You can move Suh, Brockers and Donald anywhere on the DLine...

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  Okay, flesh that out a little.

Blue and Gold366March 22, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: You can move Suh, Brockers and Donald anywhere on the DLine...

roman18268March 22, 2018 01:49PM

  Right. And it takes all front 7 or 8 to do that

Blue and Gold221March 22, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: Wade is a future HOF coach for a reason

dzrams179March 22, 2018 07:25PM

  Yeah, well,

Blue and Gold189March 22, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: Yeah, well,

dzrams323March 22, 2018 08:29PM

  Re: Yeah, well,

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  That would be tough Attachments

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  For some reason, this complicated explanation reminds me of a famous story...

Rams43273March 23, 2018 07:08AM

  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

dzrams173March 23, 2018 07:25AM

  Kind of

Blue and Gold196March 23, 2018 09:33AM

  Re: Kind of

dzrams176March 23, 2018 11:46AM

  How it could work?

Blue and Gold225March 23, 2018 12:19PM

  Re: Thanks for the reply...

dzrams281March 23, 2018 01:52PM

  The problem is "worked" is not the goal

Blue and Gold206March 23, 2018 05:44PM

  Re: I disagree...

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  Yesterday's news Attachments

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  Re: Not everything...but you've lost sight of the context

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  Not all that interested in PFF's grade

Blue and Gold164March 24, 2018 01:05PM

  Re: Ahhh, you've explained it

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  Ahh, sarcasm

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  Fun facts about Wade

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  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

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  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

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  Re: Eh....

laram198March 23, 2018 11:43AM

  Re: Lol...

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  Re: WoW that turned serious...NM

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  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

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  And you know that how?

Blue and Gold262March 23, 2018 09:28AM

  Re: And you know that how?

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  I think the hyperbole is getting a little thick

Blue and Gold197March 23, 2018 12:05PM

  Re: +ME...NM

laram169March 23, 2018 12:12PM

  Re: I think the hyperbole is getting a little thick

Rams43215March 23, 2018 12:30PM

  Come on

Blue and Gold294March 23, 2018 12:37PM

  Re: IMO some just want to sign a big name player....

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