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Re: I disagree...

March 24, 2018 12:14PM
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Blue and Gold
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dzrams
We've come back to my original position.

I said greatness supersedes scheme misfit. And you dismissed it as a pleasant sounding bumper sticker.
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My reply
1. It "worked" with Youngblood, but he was not what he was before.
2. Suh is not Youngblood in terms of character, work, study, etc.
3. We want great defense, Rams defense was good versus run, but lacked pass rush, even though Blood was good, no longer great due to SCHEME
4. Rams defense versus run last year not good, Suh is not the kind of player who can help. Only played on one good run defense in his life.
5. You talk about "greatness" How is Suh "great"?

You seem to say Suh is great

Okay, I always answer you questions and reply

It's time for you to say why you think Suh is great. I have watched him, A lot. From Day 1 though last year.'

Donald is great. Suh has been good, he has some really good things. But he is NOT and has never been great.

Why do you think he's great? Be specific.

Donald and Suh are great. Donald has been better because he's been extraordinarily good but that doesn't mean Suh has only been "good."

Both are on HOF trajectories and I think that is the general consensus...which is why I find the question a bit ridiculous but I'll entertain you.

1. Suh’s numbers through seven seasons are comparable to recently inducted Hall of Fame DT’s Cortez Kennedy and Warren Sapp. Suh has more tackles than Sapp through his first seven seasons and more sacks than Kennedy over that same span. He's actually right in between them in both of those categories.

2. In seven seasons, he's earned five All-Pro nods and 5 pro bowls.

3. Since 2013, he’s been graded as one of the leagues top run defenders by PFF and as high as #2 in 2014.

4. He’s been ranked by various NFL experts, including Bucky Brooks, as their top run defender.

5. He’s a league leader in run stuffs over the past four years. There are only three players who surpass his 32.5 run stuffs in that time period: Aaron Donald (40.5), Michael Bennett (40.5), and Khalil Mack (33).

6. He ranked second among interior defensive linemen against the run last season according to PFF.

7. Durability. He's only missed 2 games in his entire career AND he has consistently led all D'linemen in snaps for years.

8. He's been ranked by PFF among the league's best every year in QB pressures since his rookie season.
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  Reasons for, against Ndamukong Suh signing with Rams, Saints or Titans

laram912March 22, 2018 07:07AM

  Re: Reasons for, against Ndamukong Suh signing with Rams, Saints or Titans

IowaRam297March 22, 2018 07:09AM

  Rams have to release Austin for space????/

ferragamo79303March 22, 2018 07:49AM

  lol

Speed_Kills239March 22, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: Signing $$$ for Donald would force that wouldn't it?...NM

laram265March 22, 2018 08:01AM

  I guess if he's signing for $25 million a year nm

ferragamo79288March 22, 2018 08:09AM

  Re: Between Donald, draft picks and Suh, not far-fetched...NM

laram210March 22, 2018 08:15AM

  Im sure the Rams will place some of the Donald extension

ferragamo79299March 22, 2018 08:23AM

  A very fair presentation, IMO...

Rams43231March 22, 2018 07:39AM

  Bottom line: who the heck knows what Suh is REALLY looking for

RockRam250March 22, 2018 12:17PM

  Re: Negative....

laram334March 22, 2018 12:32PM

  Sure they do. If not, they'd be stupid. (nm)

RockRam191March 22, 2018 01:44PM

  Re: Sure they do. If not, they'd be stupid

Ramboni245March 22, 2018 05:32PM

  Re: Bottom line: who the heck knows what Suh is REALLY looking for

Billy_T225March 22, 2018 12:47PM

  Plus

Blue and Gold214March 22, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: Good point buddy! lol...

laram253March 22, 2018 12:55PM

  What???

RockRam205March 22, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: What???

NorCalRamFan327March 22, 2018 06:06PM

  People v. Benjamin Perez

stlramz261March 22, 2018 09:36PM

  reminds me of a couple years ago

IowaRam242March 22, 2018 08:16AM

  IMO some just want to sign a big name player....

roman18233March 22, 2018 01:02PM

  Suh fits Saints well

Blue and Gold298March 22, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: You can move Suh, Brockers and Donald anywhere on the DLine...

oldschoolramfan208March 22, 2018 01:22PM

  Okay, flesh that out a little.

Blue and Gold363March 22, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: You can move Suh, Brockers and Donald anywhere on the DLine...

roman18264March 22, 2018 01:49PM

  Right. And it takes all front 7 or 8 to do that

Blue and Gold217March 22, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: Wade is a future HOF coach for a reason

dzrams175March 22, 2018 07:25PM

  Yeah, well,

Blue and Gold185March 22, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: Yeah, well,

dzrams319March 22, 2018 08:29PM

  Re: Yeah, well,

zn201March 22, 2018 08:45PM

  That would be tough Attachments

Blue and Gold273March 22, 2018 09:09PM

  For some reason, this complicated explanation reminds me of a famous story...

Rams43270March 23, 2018 07:08AM

  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

dzrams170March 23, 2018 07:25AM

  Kind of

Blue and Gold192March 23, 2018 09:33AM

  Re: Kind of

dzrams173March 23, 2018 11:46AM

  How it could work?

Blue and Gold222March 23, 2018 12:19PM

  Re: Thanks for the reply...

dzrams278March 23, 2018 01:52PM

  The problem is "worked" is not the goal

Blue and Gold203March 23, 2018 05:44PM

  Re: I disagree...

dzrams177March 24, 2018 12:14PM

  Yesterday's news Attachments

Blue and Gold246March 24, 2018 12:22PM

  Re: Not everything...but you've lost sight of the context

dzrams168March 24, 2018 12:52PM

  Not all that interested in PFF's grade

Blue and Gold161March 24, 2018 01:05PM

  Re: Ahhh, you've explained it

dzrams176March 24, 2018 01:12PM

  Ahh, sarcasm

Blue and Gold179March 24, 2018 01:15PM

  Fun facts about Wade

Blue and Gold211March 24, 2018 01:31PM

  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

laram194March 23, 2018 09:41AM

  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

dzrams186March 23, 2018 11:39AM

  Re: Eh....

laram194March 23, 2018 11:43AM

  Re: Lol...

dzrams192March 23, 2018 11:49AM

  Re: WoW that turned serious...NM

laram191March 23, 2018 11:52AM

  Re: But are bumblebees really "flying"?

Blue and Gold305March 23, 2018 05:54PM

  And you know that how?

Blue and Gold257March 23, 2018 09:28AM

  Re: And you know that how?

Rams43180March 23, 2018 11:38AM

  I think the hyperbole is getting a little thick

Blue and Gold194March 23, 2018 12:05PM

  Re: +ME...NM

laram166March 23, 2018 12:12PM

  Re: I think the hyperbole is getting a little thick

Rams43211March 23, 2018 12:30PM

  Come on

Blue and Gold291March 23, 2018 12:37PM

  Re: IMO some just want to sign a big name player....

Steve253March 22, 2018 09:03PM