January 20, 2018 05:06PM
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RamUK
If not, then they overpaid.

Overpaying is when you spend money on something that turns out not to be worth what you spent.

You cannot judge at the time if you paid fair market price for something when it's dictated by future performance.

They overpaid for Suh, in fact they got ripped off by Suh a bit like the Redskins did with Haynesworth.

He has not delivered $19m worth of value every season since he's been there.

Being in Florida I know a fair few Dolphins fans and they have been underwhelmed. The guy doesn't dominate games like Donald does.

It seems that pretty much every post I make you jump in to tell me how wrong I am. I think we have been here before.

No one sits around determining the play by play "value" of players like that. The market decides these things. In 2015,. Russel Wilson signed a typical starting qb 2nd contract. The year before, those contracts for qbs came in at 20 M avg. per year. Wilson signed for just under 22 M avg. per year. In 2017 Derek Carr signed his own starting qb's 2nd contract. His was 25 M avg. per year. Why? He was a starting qb up for a second contract and those go up.

Was Carr "worth" that? Wrong question. It works this way. If Oakland didn;t want to pay Carr 25 M, someone else would. So the 25 M, at the end of the day, represents this---do you want to keep the player? Because if you do, that's what you have to pay him.

As I said, beyond just understanding that, I don't care how owners spend their share of NFL tv contract money. I don't even think it;s realistic when fans sit around asking if XYZ "earned" his contract. I think those kinds of conversations are basically off target and I usually avoid them. The team wants a player or they don't. If they do they pay XYZ. Either that or another team will.That's all I ever see in any of this.

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  Would you be willing to pay AD......

Los Angeles Lenny821January 20, 2018 02:01PM

  Re: Would you be willing to pay AD......

Rams43186January 20, 2018 02:10PM

  he's going to get more than 20.

zn228January 20, 2018 02:13PM

  Scary because I think you're right

RamUK217January 20, 2018 02:19PM

  don't agree

zn186January 20, 2018 02:28PM

  So you think he's delivered $19m worth of value?

RamUK204January 20, 2018 03:26PM

  it doesn't work that way

zn190January 20, 2018 05:06PM

  Thanks for enlightening me (nm)

RamUK158January 20, 2018 05:21PM

  just how I see it

zn213January 20, 2018 05:24PM

  Re: So you think he's delivered $19m worth of value?

VANRAM191January 21, 2018 12:42PM

  Who was a non factor?

jemach157January 21, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: Who was a non factor?

VANRAM200January 21, 2018 01:09PM

  Aaron Donald was not the issue in the Atlanta game...

jemach154January 21, 2018 03:27PM

  Re: I couldn't disagree with this statement more...

dzrams276January 21, 2018 03:59PM

  Re: don't agree

Rams43165January 20, 2018 04:00PM

  Philips puts Donald in the class of dominate player...

jemach126January 21, 2018 07:18AM

  and to drive that point home.

zn157January 21, 2018 07:22AM

  Yes and no

RFIP226January 21, 2018 05:13AM

  I'd pay him 25.

alyoshamucci189January 20, 2018 03:00PM

  they don't need to do that (say bye to anyone)

zn161January 20, 2018 05:14PM

  Re: Would you be willing to pay AD......

Classicalwit187January 20, 2018 03:29PM

  Enough to keep him a Ram for his career...

jemach187January 20, 2018 07:25PM

  +1

stlramz172January 20, 2018 09:42PM

  Not so simple.

RockRam142January 21, 2018 02:32AM

  no it doesn't

zn178January 21, 2018 03:42AM

  How is it...

jemach161January 21, 2018 06:28AM

  Re: Not so simple.

dzrams147January 21, 2018 04:08PM

  If the Rams rip up the last year of his contract

no name337January 21, 2018 04:51AM

  Re: If the Rams rip up the last year of his contract

zn167January 21, 2018 05:16AM

  Re: And there lies the problem........

oldschoolramfan142January 21, 2018 05:47AM

  because he was injured

zn147January 21, 2018 05:59AM

  Re: "Rams need to get creative."

oldschoolramfan141January 21, 2018 07:32AM

  Joe Flacco

Los Angeles Lenny184January 21, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Joe Flacco

zn159January 21, 2018 07:59AM

  What’s best for the team, overall?

Rams43145January 21, 2018 08:20AM

  I will go as far as saying this...

Los Angeles Lenny176January 21, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: I will go as far as saying this...

Rams43139January 21, 2018 08:37AM

  I hear ya 43

Los Angeles Lenny252January 21, 2018 08:41AM

  I'm not ready to bestow greatness on Goff

jemach286January 21, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: I will go as far as saying this...

dzrams241January 21, 2018 04:21PM

  I'll add this...

jemach143January 21, 2018 09:50AM

  Re: I'll add this...

Los Angeles Lenny155January 21, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: I'll add this...

Rams43121January 21, 2018 12:24PM