March 14, 2017 05:47AM
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LMU93
They imploded under Fisher last year and it was painful to watch those last 5-6 games. It was time to turn the page 100%. But I don't think it erases that, well at least for me, from 2012-2014 they were a "breath of fresh air" from the abomination of 2007-2011. Wasn't ever a dynamic passing game but it was a fun team to watch overall because they were very competitive. The first 45 games of Fisher's tenure they were 20-24-1. After that they stagnated. And then declined again.

What kept them from doing better, I think, was some significant injuries.

Not counting 2016, when as you say they fell apart, in those previous 64 games, 2012-14, they had a starting caliber qb for 27 of them. I am counting Foles pre-meltdown as starting caliber. So that's Foles 4 plus Bradford 23.

And of course they had OL issues. First 8 games of 2012 they had extensive OL injuries. They were okay in that regard for the 2nd half of 2012 and most of 2013. 2014 the OL was a mess, losing guys and playing guys hurt. That led to the overnight OL fix consisting of lots of young draft picks. Then, in 2015, they were both inexperienced AND frequently injured. Add that up and that means that in 64 games, they had a relatively healthy experienced OL for a total of 20 games.

There are some qbs who have proven they can still play effectively behind lines like that, but they're called Brady and Wilson, not Clemens and Davis.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2017 05:48AM by zn.
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  Going to be another tough season

Speed_Kills2517March 11, 2017 02:58AM

  It wasn't just Fisher who failed...

max783March 11, 2017 04:35AM

  Looking more and more to me that McVay...

RFIP743March 11, 2017 04:57AM

  Re: Totally disagree with that.

oldschoolramfan803March 11, 2017 06:51AM

  Something to watch for sure

RFIP863March 11, 2017 06:54AM

  Re: Something to watch for sure

den-the-coach848March 11, 2017 07:12AM

  Re: If I'm Jackson I'm picking Tampa over the Rams

Speed_Kills526March 11, 2017 10:28AM

  Re: If I'm Jackson I'm picking Tampa over the Rams

RFIP953March 11, 2017 10:33AM

  Re: If I'm Jackson I'm picking Tampa over the Rams

Rampage2K-493March 11, 2017 11:45AM

  That's because he's smart

9er8er372March 11, 2017 02:06PM

  Re: If I'm Jackson I'm picking Tampa over the Rams

Rams43506March 11, 2017 11:47AM

  Re: If I'm Jackson I'm picking Tampa over the Rams

RFIP695March 11, 2017 12:16PM

  Re: Something to watch for sure

Rams43987March 11, 2017 07:21AM

  Re: It wasn't just Fisher who failed...

Rams43366March 11, 2017 07:10AM

  Re: I think he went too far

Speed_Kills474March 11, 2017 10:33AM

  Re: I think he went too far

Rams43470March 11, 2017 11:28AM

  Re: I think he went too far

Rams43329October 23, 2018 03:04PM

  Re: I think he went too far

Coy Bacon242October 23, 2018 03:24PM

  Yeah!!!

Saguaro278October 23, 2018 03:35PM

  Re: I think he went too far

Rampage2K-216October 23, 2018 04:30PM

  Re: lol!!!

Speed_Kills192October 24, 2018 08:14AM

  Re: lol!!!

Rams43174October 24, 2018 08:20AM

  Re: well.... lol

Speed_Kills169October 24, 2018 08:25AM

  Re: I think he went too far

RamsFanSinceLA422March 13, 2017 08:18AM

  Not burning McVay

RFIP427March 13, 2017 12:03PM

  Re: Not burning McVay

RamsFanSinceLA323March 13, 2017 02:14PM

  McVay is not trading and signing players...

BumRap293March 13, 2017 12:50PM

  Pump the brakes on Snead for at least two offseasons

LesBaker538March 11, 2017 01:39PM

  They for sure are rebuilding

ferragamo79452March 11, 2017 07:02AM

  No doubt...

PaulButcher59393March 11, 2017 07:46AM

  We've waited this long

Drew2839358March 11, 2017 07:40AM

  Re: We've waited this long......Bingo!

oldschoolramfan306March 11, 2017 07:43AM

  You don't know that.

RFL445March 11, 2017 08:30AM

  Re: You don't know that.

Rampage2K-759March 11, 2017 08:46AM

  Re: You don't know that.

Rampage2K-214October 23, 2018 04:32PM

  Not for me

9er8er437March 11, 2017 02:16PM

  I thought they were fun to watch 2012-2014

LMU93532March 13, 2017 10:38AM

  Re: yep true

Speed_Kills361March 13, 2017 12:06PM

  Re: yep true

LMU93341March 13, 2017 12:19PM

  I was never fooled. It was torture then too.

9er8er275March 13, 2017 04:02PM

  Totally agree with all that...

max390March 14, 2017 06:03AM

  Re: Totally agree with all that...

max222October 23, 2018 08:41PM

  Re: Different perspective...

dzrams186October 24, 2018 08:05AM

  You are flat out wrong, McVay isn't a very good coach

max232October 24, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: Ok....agree on that....

dzrams185October 24, 2018 09:05AM

  Re: yup... no doubt

Speed_Kills178October 24, 2018 08:23AM

  Re: yup... no doubt

Rams43177October 24, 2018 08:46AM

  I agree

zn394March 14, 2017 05:47AM

  Re: Going to be another tough season

Classicalwit1087March 11, 2017 02:23PM

  I'm really looking forward to it

Atlantic Ram422March 13, 2017 11:32AM

  rebuild?

zn495March 14, 2017 06:00AM

  Re: rebuild?

zn266October 23, 2018 03:49PM

  Re: rebuild?

zn249October 23, 2018 09:13PM

  blast from the past......love reading these old threads

Rampage2K-296October 23, 2018 01:27PM

  You were RIGHT! It only took a minute!

stlramz257October 23, 2018 07:04PM

  Fisher did find some great players

Rams_81286October 24, 2018 01:35AM

  Did Fisher draft the players or

ferragamo79226October 24, 2018 09:12AM

  Re: Or both?

dzrams207October 24, 2018 09:34AM

  yes it was both

zn251October 24, 2018 01:43PM

  Re: yes it was both

Rams43181October 24, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: yes it was both

zn172October 24, 2018 02:01PM

  Re: yes it was both

Rams43172October 24, 2018 02:49PM

  Re: yes it was both

zn171October 24, 2018 03:43PM

  Re: yes it was both

Rams43188October 24, 2018 04:30PM

  Re: yes it was both

zn180October 24, 2018 04:33PM

  One thing I'd like to add...

RamsFanSince69222October 24, 2018 02:51PM

  Re: One thing I'd like to add...

zn182October 24, 2018 03:47PM

  100%...Especially on the offense. Night & Day!

PaulButcher59179October 25, 2018 12:54PM

  He also had essentially 8 1st round picks over 5 years

PaulButcher59339October 24, 2018 11:27AM

  Wow. Thats a real eye opener.

max412October 24, 2018 11:51AM

  Re: It's deeper than bad eye for talent...

dzrams204October 24, 2018 12:45PM

  and name the last team to draft a Donald, Gurley, and Goff in consecutive drafts

zn248October 24, 2018 01:57PM

  Couple of things...

Rams43262October 24, 2018 03:10PM

  Re: Couple of things...

zn186October 24, 2018 03:34PM

  Re: Couple of things...

Rams43234October 24, 2018 04:35PM

  Re: Couple of things...

dzrams317October 24, 2018 04:52PM

  Re: Couple of things...

Rams43239October 24, 2018 05:08PM

  Re: Couple of things...

zn182October 24, 2018 09:10PM

  Re: Couple of things...

dzrams223October 24, 2018 09:25PM

  Re: I'm just going to say it

Speed_Kills179October 25, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: I'm just going to say it

Rams43178October 25, 2018 07:02AM

  Re: its not about the definition

Speed_Kills168October 25, 2018 07:44AM

  Re: its not about the definition

Rams43171October 25, 2018 08:42AM

  Nicely done

Speedball89235October 24, 2018 02:00PM

  Fisher Was what his Record says he was... "Barely Average"

Anonymous User830October 24, 2018 03:29PM

  He was called ocho ocho in Tenn for a reason

SUretHing178October 24, 2018 03:45PM