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Re: a very red herring argument.

December 11, 2016 03:17AM
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Tends to really dilute the "Fisher inherited a depleted roster" mantra as an excuse for mediocrity 5 years later....

Yeah that's a bad argument.

No one ever said he inherited a depleted roster. I mean think about it...who WOULD say that. In fact he still has 6 guys from before 2012 while Carroll, for example, has none. (Which is partly because Fisher inherited better players than Carroll did).

So. Red herring.

The reason they weren't winning in 2013-2015 was (at different times in different ways) line issues combined with qb issues.

So going to war against the wrong "argument" doesn't do it for me.

As for 2016? Different story.


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"Bad argument", zn? Nobody ever said Fisher inherited a depleted roster?

Are you SERIOUS?

We've been seeing that argument for years, man. Heck, it's even true! But it's NOT the reason that the Rams are 4-8 in '16.

According to the OP, only 4 players from the '11 Ram roster are still on the team.

But when examining the other teams, it becomes apparent that other, more successful teams have had similar, if not even more turnover. So, clearly, success (or the lack thereof) is not just about player turnover.

Raising issues such as OL injuries or QB shortcomings are merely distractions when considering a 5 year record. Other team FO's and HC's have faced their own fair share of challenges in the past 5 years. They obviously planned (and coached) better. They remain in the playoff conversation with 4 games remaining. The Rams are a laughingstock.

It's ultimately about player evaluation and coaching. Same old story.

Well if anyone did say it they were wrong. He inherited several players and only honed them down over the years. That's in contrast to Carroll in Seattle who inherited virtually nothing.

And do not tell me that an argument I believe, reason for well, and back with evidence is a "distraction." Remember when you posted that you would speak slowly so I would understand? Calling my valid argument a "distraction" is no better than that.

Saying something is a red herring is aimed at the logic of the argument (and I stand by that).

Saying something is a distraction is aimed at the poster and his motives.

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  A very thought provoking post by Aeneas1...

Rams431128December 10, 2016 06:29AM

  a very red herring argument.

zn547December 10, 2016 06:33AM

  many posters here used the worst roster NFL history

ferragamo79375December 10, 2016 07:51AM

  Along with the youngest team in the NFL...

jemach366December 10, 2016 01:05PM

  Re: many posters here used the worst roster NFL history

zn323December 11, 2016 03:28AM

  Re: a very red herring argument.

Rams43325December 10, 2016 08:00AM

  Re: a very red herring argument.

guinnessram288December 10, 2016 09:48AM

  Re: a very red herring argument.

zn229December 11, 2016 03:17AM

  Re: a very red herring argument.

Rams43185December 11, 2016 09:54AM

  Re: a very red herring argument.

max184December 11, 2016 10:11AM

  Those teams have QBs

Zooey318December 10, 2016 06:46AM

  Those teams have QBs: Regardless of who the HC is?

Anonymous User404December 10, 2016 07:35AM

  Okay

Zooey399December 10, 2016 07:47AM

  The development of Goff.....

HighPlainsDrifter450December 10, 2016 08:00AM

  Re: The development of Goff.....

zn277December 10, 2016 03:51PM

  Re: The development of Goff.....

Zooey325December 10, 2016 05:19PM

  Re: Okay

21Dog197December 11, 2016 04:06AM

  IMO much of the time that's true

LesBaker321December 10, 2016 07:50AM

  Re: IMO much of the time that's true

Anonymous User315December 10, 2016 08:09AM

  He had Bradford.

no name249December 10, 2016 01:18PM

  Re: He had Bradford.

zn198December 11, 2016 02:51AM

  Not sure it's all going to be on Goff

NewMexicoRam559December 10, 2016 05:18PM

  stuff

zn192December 11, 2016 03:09AM

  But will Goff be able to get the kind of experience he needs?

NewMexicoRam411December 11, 2016 03:37AM

  sure

zn307December 11, 2016 03:39AM

  I post every year this same argument

ferragamo79309December 10, 2016 07:53AM

  Re: I post every year this same argument

poplarbluffman309December 10, 2016 10:07AM

  Wrong!

BobCarl246December 10, 2016 07:57AM