QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams I don't see $2M being the difference between affording our young stars and not affording them. My suggestion is they make up that relatively small amount by letting an average vet - i.e. not a young star - walk in free agency. It's not that simple usually.... there is 53 players to try to fit the puzzle. What if on the other hand we gby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn QuoteRampage2K- Highly doubt they simply let AD walk.... Yeah doubtful he would just walk but in a way that's semantics....dz is just saying this Rams front office has tended not to come through on top contracts so far. They let Jenkins walk because they lowballed him, he took another offer (the difference was 25% more). and they only had one tag which they usedby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn 1. Quotefrom Ranking the NFL's Most Unblockable Pass-Rushers Doug Farrar ... 1. Aaron Donald, DL, Los Angeles Rams Aaron Donald has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four seasons and has been named a first-team All-Pro for the past three. The only question is: What were the All-Pro voters thinkiby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams I don't see $2M being the difference between affording our young stars and not affording them. My suggestion is they make up that relatively small amount by letting an average vet - i.e. not a young star - walk in free agency. It's not that simple usually.... there is 53 players to try to fit the puzzle. What if on the other hand we get out bid on a player likeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I don't see $2M being the difference between affording our young stars and not affording them. My suggestion is they make up that relatively small amount by letting an average vet - i.e. not a young star - walk in free agency.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
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QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn 1. Quotefrom Ranking the NFL's Most Unblockable Pass-Rushers Doug Farrar ... 1. Aaron Donald, DL, Los Angeles Rams Aaron Donald has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four seasons and has been named a first-team All-Pro for the past three. The only question is: What were the All-Pro voters thinking in 2014? Because Donald has been dominant since the dby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsdude Quotejemach I'll state again...IMO...this team doesn't get past round 1 in the playoffs without him. lol...they didn't get past the first round of the playoffs WITH him either. :lol3 Having said that, I still would pay him $23-24 mil, $75 mil guaranteed. Question is: Is that enough for AD and his agent? The guaranteed money on your proposed deal is probably not enough. Millerby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quote Brown is one of only three guards out of 41 eligible to have not allowed a quarterback pressure over the last two weeks and holds a 100.0 pass blocking efficiency. Well, that whiff by Brown that allowed Goff to get blindsided and resulted in a DTD in week 16 wasn't even mentioned. I have no idea what PFF is watching sometimes. When you let a guy blow right past you and practicallby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotereggae Donald, Peters then Goff. That is my priority list in order. Peters above Goff is bold. But I agree with you in that Peters should be a very high priority. Someone said they don't think we can afford him. I think Peters will be one of the elite core that they make sure they retain.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams There were reports that his ask is in QB territory. Who knows what "QB territory" is but mid 20's would be getting close. . I;ve made the case before that "qb money" in real terms is high 20s. The reasoning was that you have to compare 2nd contracts to 2nd contracts, and in 2018 the 2nd contract amount for qbs was around 28 M. The mid-20s was reachedby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar I'd be surprised and disapointed if the Rams weren't offering at least $20M, but who knows? Here's a question for you - how much would you be willing to pay AD per year on a 6 year deal? Here's another one - if he was a FA, what to you think his highest offer would be, even if you wouldn't pay it? Good questions. Let me first say that I've been spectacularly wrong on thisby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 Quotezn Quotespagsbacker [ I draw a different conclusion....given Donald could be controlled for 3 more years and vastly underpaid with no security, he should be more willing to compromise a bit on his demands....not force the issue or demand a trade. go rams. If he can force a trade he isn't being controlled. And why wouldby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 Quotezn Quotespagsbacker [ I draw a different conclusion....given Donald could be controlled for 3 more years and vastly underpaid with no security, he should be more willing to compromise a bit on his demands....not force the issue or demand a trade. go rams. If he can force a trade he isn't being controlled. And why would he willingly be underpaid fby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn Quotespagsbacker [ I draw a different conclusion....given Donald could be controlled for 3 more years and vastly underpaid with no security, he should be more willing to compromise a bit on his demands....not force the issue or demand a trade. go rams. If he can force a trade he isn't being controlled. And why would he willingly be underpaid for a total of 7 years.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar QuotedzramsThe players would probably like to have either shorter deals or opt out clauses anyway. The long term deals really serve the teams more since salaries aren't guaranteed anyway. Why would a player want to be locked up for 6 years when, at best, 3 of those years are guaranteed? This is especially true when due to inflation, the player is severely underpaid in the latter yearsby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar As the article states, I agree that the salary cap isn't going away. The calculations may change, but the cap is required to keep the small market teams competitive and the wealthiest owners from dominating. Guaranteed contracts will have unintended consequences. If this becomes a requirement, teams will be less willing to sign longer term deals as the risk increases in the later yby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamgator Just stop crying poor mouth. It's not like we are talking Kings vs Peasants. It's also no different than the Secretary who carries the work load that earns the Boss credit AND the money. Happens everywhere! Want Boss pay?Be a Boss! BAD comparison because Secretaries do not get a signing bonus that can buy a 20 room house with a pool. Sorry but I just cannot feel a whole lot of symby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci But I went Peters because he's in his prime and could be the next #1 in the game. I doubt we'll be able to afford him. Why not? I think he may be on their highest priorities. Who would you put above him?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar From what I read from Bell, the amount/year is not the issue - although he is looking for something in the $14M/year range.. He mostly wants a multi-year deal that offers some stability. So that's a real problem, IMHO as that's risky for the Steelers as we know how quickly RBs can decline and he has a lot of miles on him. Yes. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. It doesby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar QuotedzramsBut we can drill down a bit to satisfy that narrow point. Do we have any examples of where a player demand to be traded due to a contract dispute, and wasn't? I think I've done my share of research. If you want to compile a list of players that demanded trades purely for contract disputes, go for it. QuotedzramsI suspect the answer is still going to be a resounding noby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar Because you can't just lump them all into the same bucket "demand to be traded". There are reasons why players demand to be traded or hold out. Some of those reasons are easily overcome and others aren't. Contract disputes are business issues that get resolved and everyone moves on, on-field issues usually don't. But that's a huge and incorrect assumption that they get resby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar Demanding a trade would be counter productive in some ways. This is a huge stretch here. And it seems to me it's a deflection around the central question: how often do star players demand to be traded and aren't? Whether it's counter productive or whether all of the other issues you pointed to that would make a trade difficult are actually real obstacles, if AD plays the tradby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- One of the most storied franchises in the history is about to tag their star player for the second year in a row and nobody is calling them a bad organization or rioting in the streets right now over it....it's not personal, its business.... If there is anybody who deserves to "set the market" it is Bell.... the dude had 85 catches last yeaby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- One of the most storied franchises in the history is about to tag their star player for the second year in a row and nobody is calling them a bad organization or rioting in the streets right now over it....it's not personal, its business.... If there is anybody who deserves to "set the market" it is Bell.... the dude had 85 catches last year, he touches the ball moreby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar Well it does matter if the dispute is about money. Because history shows that disputes about money usually get worked out and disputes about playing time and other on-field issues usually don't. Regardless, the key word here is forced, as if the Rams would have no other options. They would have options and history would be their guide. Does that mean they wouldn't trade AD to the Bby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteThe_Zone Raiders with Marcus Allen, That is what spurred the free agency movement to begin with. star player not happy, Requested Trade, not being played, team not willing to trade him for whatever reasons. thus Free Agency was born. Since the advent of free agency, this hasn't happened. Facts are handy things indeed.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCeeZar So the only guy that held out and demanded a trade at the same time did not get traded. As for the rest of them, their disputes were not about money and in each case the team was not all that interested in keeping them in the first place. Again, not like the AD situation. I appreciate the research. I probably have different conclusions that you. What I take from this is, whenby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com