QuoteBearlyThere McVay started throwing his players under the bus the last few years (not just Goff). He didn't the first 2 seasons. That is why he is starting to get like Gruden who does throw his players under the bus. I have a theory on why McVay started what you're calling "throwing his players under the bus" after the first 2 seasons. He's evolving. He started as the youngestby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam But not too firmly, otherwise you'll miss out on an Aaron Donald. True! But to turn it around, we can put it like this. If Aaron Donald came on the market, who wouldn't trade 2 #1s for him? You can hope a draft pick is Aaron Donald or you can trade a couple of draft picks for the real Aaron Donald.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotenicecatchellard Tavon had the overall better game by far compared to tutu in college. Tavon was a threat anywhere on the field running, receiving, and kick and punt returns. Tutu is just a receiver with very limited experience rushing or returning in college. He only had 12 carries in his career for 2.2 avg. He is not a jet sweep guy that I keep hearing about. He is not a proficient wr eitheby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit I think Tavon outweighs Tutu by some 15 - 20 pounds. That is sobering to say the least. Tavon didn't fail because of his size. He simply didn't have WR skills.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quoteheadslapper Brandon wanted a certain type of safety and they saw that in Fuller, but yes Holmes def pushed for him, Holmes also pushed hard for Goff. Not as good in the end, but still shows he had influence, for better or worse If you read up on Fuller, he's a Holmes find. No defensive coordinator is going to be as deep into examining all the players in college football as a scoby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quoteferragamo79 Always wondered..... Holmes has never done the drafting. It's always been a collaborative effort between the HC and Snead. When Fisher was the head coach, he had final say but it was collaborative then. I think it's been reported or implied that Snead has final say now but it's still very collaborative. Snead has been the type of GM that gets the HC theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 Always wondered..... Holmes has never done the drafting. It's always been a collaborative effort between the HC and Snead. When Fisher was the head coach, he had final say but it was collaborative then. I think it's been reported or implied that Snead has final say now but it's still very collaborative. Snead has been the type of GM that gets the HC the type of players theyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram i wonder if he could become available after the drafting of penei sewell and the signing of ragnow today. Depth charts show Penei Sewell penciled in at RT. They just signed Decker. I doubt they want to move him so quickly.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Snead has been very good IMO. But I still don't think some of those names deserve to be on the list yet. Travon Howard 7th Bobby Evans 3rd Brycen Hopkins 4th We've still got high hopes for these 3 but I can't count them as successful picks yet.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Hollins hasn't had injury issues and he was arguably the most productive of the three.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I get the concern about the OLB opposite Floyd, but only to an extent. The Rams were 2nd in the league in sacks last year with 53 (three behind Pittsburgh). From their league-leading defense they only lost Ebukam's 31 tackles and 4.5 sacks from their OLB corps. Everyone else is back. Is is unreasonable to expect one of these guys to step up this year to fill in the gap?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams I'm also curious. So far you've already pointed out that a trade for a good vet is super expensive as evidenced by the Orlando Brown trade. You've noted that LT's come in 1st and they don't have one of those next year. If you're now dismissing the free agent route (assuming they got lucky and one was available), if you had to guess, what way do you think they will solve theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotezn It just should be done with caution and you certainly can't over-do it. Both statements are true but the question remains, is restructuring two years in a row at a time when they're going all in overdoing it? The way I see it, they had multiple re-structures at a time when the cap went down and had to account for the fact they had 2 qbs counting against the cap forby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn It just should be done with caution and you certainly can't over-do it. Both statements are true but the question remains, is restructuring two years in a row at a time when they're going all in overdoing it?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram To that if they cut ashawn after this season (around 8 if designated a post June 1 cut). With the 2 dline draft picks his days as a ram may be numbered. It's possible. They may trade a WR. There's all kinds of things they can do. Freeing up money has never been an issue for them.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quick question on your stance that it will affect how free agents see the organization. First, I do agree that McVay and Snead could and should handle things in a more professional or classy manner. It sounds like McVay needs to get much better in the communication department. That said, above someone pointed out that the Pats have a lot of disgruntled former players aby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quick question on your stance that it will affect how free agents see the organization. First, I do agree that McVay and Snead could and should handle things in a more professional or classy manner. It sounds like McVay needs to get much better in the communication department. That said, above someone pointed out that the Pats have a lot of disgruntled former players and it hasn't seemedby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotepromomasterj You already have the 2022 cap space figured out without accepting for rise in the cap from new tv / streaming deals, player restructures, trades, etc? Impressive The $13M being bandied about is the amount of money freed up if Whit retires. Funny thing is, Whit may not retire next year. Fans have been projecting he will retire the last 3 years. All this furor becomes mootby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
It sounds like McVay has got some growing to do in the communication area. I get why you want to play things close to the vest when you're thinking of trading a player but there's got to be a better way. I think we've heard a report of nearly every player being bitter once they're traded. Is that normal? I don't know for sure but it seems out of the norm.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams He won't be too terribly expensive. With an LOT--that's a bad sign. Nah, it's not. I just got through looking at the contracts and recent signings of all the starting LTs in the league. They don't all cost $23M. There isn't one price for them. There are decent LTs that recently signed in the $13M - $15M range.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 And btw, extending Boom is not really a ‘bad’ option. Might not be your ideal solution, but it’s not really a ‘bad’ option. Yeah, I thought Noteboom did well in Whit's place last year. He's not Whit but he wasn't bad at all. Yeah he is. He's okay in pass protection but weak on the run in an offense that is very dependent on the run. Some say, maybe he wby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 And btw, extending Boom is not really a ‘bad’ option. Might not be your ideal solution, but it’s not really a ‘bad’ option. Yeah, I thought Noteboom did well in Whit's place last year. He's not Whit but he wasn't bad at all.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Of course I'm aware of the cap issues but I'm also aware of the possible solutions. It seems like you're trying to paint their problems as if there are no solutions. So I will ask you: do you think they have a plan and if so what is it? It looks like your answer is Yes for all three questions. That's good. That means we agree. Your previous response to my question on restructuring and backloaby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn ...Cap hell came up cause someone said you could mortgage the cap again to get enough money to sign a starting caliber left OT. There are 2 responses to that. No you can't keep restructuring... ...And remember since it's both tackle and center... ... Actually you're misrepresenting what was said. What was stated is that they could roll Whit's $13M after retirement into the LOT positby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 He’s currently my most likely solution to the ‘22 LOT vacancy. I predict Rams extend him without completely breaking the bank. I agree on both counts.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I don't think cap hell in 2025 is their biggest concern right now. They're all in to win in these next 2-3 years. I agree free agency is unlikely to be the place they solve their problem. But given that this was a conversation about the viability of signing Ryan Ramczyk to be LOT, I was pointing out that if Whit retires they could use his funds to make that happen. So far you have not provideby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quotezn Quotedzrams QuotePHDram Both tackles on no are free agents. 1. It may be hard for no to sign both. 2. Ramczyk may want the opportunity to play on the left side. Obviously we need to pay him but we found the money for Floyd so it's at least a possibility. If Whit retires, we have his $14.6M to roll into the LOT position so the money will be there. If he doesn't retirby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Forgot about all those incidents. But FWIW I don't think that's why they got rid of him. They said he was a great teammate and influence in the locker room. He fit McVay's #1 criteria of being passionate about football. That's how McVay has defined 'We not Me.' The issue was he was an impending free agent and didn't excel in Wade's press man scheme. Ironically, he would be a better fit in theby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotepromomasterj ...with flaws. It will take any of them a few years before they're ready to be a blindside protector. I think LT, like QB - you have to look in the first round for the best prospects. After that it's a crapshoot. All the guys they've been drafting up to this point have been the development type. Noteboom was drafted in the 3rd. Even 2nd rounders are often developmental tyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotepromomasterj Lots of guys suited for RT or guard based on their grades. I think all the guys who have a shot at starting at LT were gone in the first and top of the 2nd. James Hudson D'Ante Smith maybe even Spencer Brown. Some think he could have played LT. Those three were available at 57 and Smith and Hudson were available into the 4th round.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com