Quotebigjimram21 I am not in the "save Rath" business, if he did it and is found guilty then he will be punished. Just wondered how it all played out on the night in question. One thing is for sure, the whole thing is crazy. Like how drunk do you have to be to think it's a good idea to go to a woman's bedroom with her husband in the house? Yeah I hear ya. And even in ideal, muby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEkern55 Quotezn QuoteEkern55 But I don’t want to be brought into court if I accidentally touch a woman’s bare shoulder while in a crowded aisle at the grocery store.' That does not violate the law. The law explicitly states the touching must be both intentional and sexual in nature. And reverse things. Why should a woman, including my wife and daughters, as well as yours, have to puby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotek3 To experience "typical" winters (snowy), we have to drive up the mountain (3rd highest n the islands) after it has snowed to have anything close to your winters. So that's a YES, to your question. You are on the other side of the Pacific/Continental US! I was going to ask, because from time to time I work with attorneys. You're one aren't you? No, not an attorney. I'mby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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QuoteJamesJM My son used to live in Florence, Oregon... about the middle of the state and on the coast. I've driven the entire Ca., Or., and Wa. coastal routes many, many times. Beautiful. But this time I was inland. And it's also beautiful. Here's some ammo for you to call my a hypocrite, and be absolutely RIGHT: If i'm on the coast, anywhere, it's the best place on earth. If I'mby zn - Bucky's Pub
Quotek3 I live on Maui. I don't live in a gated community (not that they are bad). I'm a local that services the locals ("locals" is a term that was coined after the Massey Trial that describes Hawaiian islanders that intermarried). I live in Kahului, Maui. Part of the stew. You live in Maine, correct? Yes, in Maine. We're as far apart as you can be and still live in the USA.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke My post was in reply to the below: "now just thinking about the opposite sex will land you on tv looking will get you 5 yrs and an accidental touching will get you life. you might not spend life in jail but the sentence is life none the less" My strong preference is for only those guilty of crimes to be convicted. I trust the courts to make that determination.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM there was a day, not all that long ago... when 500, 600, 700, even a thousand miles driving in a day didn't bother me in the least. That's no longer true. I'm exhausted. 701 miles yesterday... I may sleep for a week. BUT... did see some beautiful, and majestic, country. From Paulina, Oregon to home.... center of Oregon south too Weed, Calif. then I5 home.... I should have skipby zn - Bucky's Pub
Quotewaterfield Its not just men who assume the victim may have "brought it on herself" but many women do as well. I know a few. There's a great book written by Fredrick Backman titled "Beartown". Its about a great junior hockey team in a small struggling town in a forrest in Sweden. It's also about a rape and how politics and loyalties form different groups form their resby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotecool_hand_luke Not sure there is a statement I could disagree with more. Personally I'm proud society appears to finally hold abusers to the law and protect women. Holding abusers to the law and protecting women is universally accepted, luke. Nobody is disagreeing with those things. But “innocent until proven guilty” still applies, doesn’t it? First, let’s see if he’sby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewaterfield Personally, I think its as simple as this: if Rath was on the Patriot staff Ram fans would opine he's guilty. But he's on the Ram staff so we question the victim. It's spawned from the "I've got your back and you've got my back" military mentality. Caveat: above is a broad generalization since there are exceptions withing the fan base. THere may be some truth to thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSteve just stumbled across yet another 2019 rams outlook that reiterates the importance of kupp to the rams offense, the importance of gurley as the offensive drink stirrer, and how goff's effectiveness and success is directly tied to their health and availability, as in goff is a much less effective qb without them - in short, it was yet another piece that tries to marginalize the tremendouby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach One personnel package will run its course if that is what you run most of the time. 100 or 200 looks? Hmmm...the bulk would likely have subtle differences...and good defensive teams will be successful. That makes absolutely no sense. You can run an infinite number of plays from the same personnel package. Plus there's this myth that the defenses saw what was coming. Naw, thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewaterfield 1) Listen to what the prosecutor's opening stmt and other "reports" in the media and come to all kinds of opinion, etc. None of which is actual evidence presented in a trial. 2) No way can one make any informed opinion on guilt or innocence unless they are present in the courtroom and actually listening to the real evidence as a juror would do (hopefully) I'm inby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotebigjimram21 There is no claim yet, ZN. Let's see what Rath's defense is going to be. It would seem that there are other people who may have been witness to this incident. Yes there's a claim. There's an accusation considered serious enough for it to go to trial. That claim is a charge--in a court of law. As for waiting for the outcome to see what happened, read me again. I have been sby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotebigjimram21 While I agree if it is proven in the court of law, my question is, did she yell for her husband? It seems weird we did not here of him attacking Rath or beat his tail with a baseball bat. The fact is if this happened to my wife while I was in the house ,very good chance the dude never has to worry about a trial. Maybe she waited until later to mention it to her husband. Lby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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Quotek3 Thank you ZN. Wish you lived on my island. I'd enjoy hanging out. Geez, and on top of that, we're both RAM fans! You are very clear. Your responses to the varied (which in most cases I believe were "honest" -though uninformed push backs) were very helpful and necessary to begin to strip free so much of the existing "cultural permits" that exist to create that unjuby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotewaterfield "Had they been intimate in the past? Geez, I would feel okay with taking liberties with such a person ..." If taking "liberties" with someone means what I think you mean that to me is just plain wrong and presumably ("taking liberties") is non consensual and criminal behavior. Pure and simple. I really hope your choice of "taking lby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEkern55 But I don’t want to be brought into court if I accidentally touch a woman’s bare shoulder while in a crowded aisle at the grocery store.' That does not violate the law. The law explicitly states the touching must be both intentional and sexual in nature. And reverse things. Why should a woman, including my wife and daughters, as well as yours, have to put up with deliberateby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEkern55 It’s not the law. It’s statute. Laws are in Common Law. Legal and Lawful are not one and the same thing. Common Law protects people from property damage and injury. In this case, unless Rath is being charged with breaking a lamp, there were neither. Statutes deal in Commercial-not Common-Law. So, you are incorrect in saying that goal posts are not moving. Naw. By law I MEANby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteEkern55I think is worth fighting (and I use that word intentionally) against is the changing of the goal posts. It's the law. No goal posts were "changed." The charge meets the definition of misdemeanor sexual assault. You have a party, and your wife is in bed. One of the male guests feels her up in her bed (which means deliberately entering the bedroom). She complains.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Off the top of your head how many plays can they run out of their 11 personnel? Is it 100? 200? more? The point is if the league is truly catching up with McVay's offense perhaps part of the reason is the Rams have become predictable in what they run in specific down/distance situations. A little self scouting to identify and then change those tendencies would go a long wayby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach Then there’s the impact of Gurley’s status on the rest of the offense. Unless former Memphis tailback Darrell Henderson can perform like Gurley has performed at his best, quarterback Jared Goff will have to do more to get the Rams back to where they were in 2018. Throw in the murmurs that the league has begun to catch up with McVay’s offense, and Gurley’s situation could spark a rby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 For example: Were these two friends? I mean, he was staying in her house, right? Had they been intimate in the past? Geez, I would feel okay with taking liberties with such a person that I would never dream of taking with a stranger. Did she object when she awoke? And, if so, did he stop immediately? As to her motive for pressing charges? You tell me. Maybe she “snapped” aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Good signs for Blythe, Kiser and Joseph-Day who are all in positions where added bulk and strength would serve them well. Just a somewhat different view--I think Blythe has inherent limitations and that "bulking up" will not fix them. I don't forsee a break through--I think it will be the same. Namely. Blythe can be good for long stretches but against top DLs (includingby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit It's hard to know what to believe. I was once in a similar situation although I was at a woman's house and dozed off on he couch. I was awakened by her touching me in a very surprising way. I actually didn't take any offense to it but if I had, I would have just asked her to stop. I'm don't know anything about the specifics of Rath's case but I would hope that charges were noby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote. Rath was accused by a woman of allegedly touching her inappropriately while she was sleeping at her residence last June, according to the Ventura County Star.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com