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Re: its do or die for coach Rath

July 08, 2019 09:02AM
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cool_hand_luke
Not sure there is a statement I could disagree with more. Personally I'm proud society appears to finally hold abusers to the law and protect women.

Holding abusers to the law and protecting women is universally accepted, luke.

Nobody is disagreeing with those things.

But “innocent until proven guilty” still applies, doesn’t it?

First, let’s see if he’s found guilty, THEN we’ll hang him.

And yet in sexual assault cases, often it is the victim who is guitly until proven innocent...and frankly sometimes they are never proven innocent in the eyes of many, even when the accused is convicted.

It is a complete social double standard.

And no one in this thread has said that Rath is guilty. Everyone knows how the trial system works.

BUT what you do get is a number of people finding ways to assert there could not really be a crime. And it is no accident those echo, however remotely or distantly, the national tendency to "blame the victim" in both felony and misdemeanor sexual assault cases.

That IS a national tendency to do that. It is out there. It's probably the main reason why (some estimate) only 1/4th of such assault cases are ever even reported.

Only in the last few years has there been a strong counter-tendency to resist that kind of double standard in cases like that. And that's what you're hearing here.

NO ONE has said Rath IS guilty. What they HAVE said is that spinning stories where the accusation cannot possibly be valid, echoes a bad national tendency, as I said.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2019 09:05AM by zn.
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  Trial for Ted Rath, Rams' strength and performance coach, begins in Ventura

Anonymous User1047July 05, 2019 06:04PM

  its do or die for coach Rath

stlramz424July 05, 2019 07:21PM

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Classicalwit359July 06, 2019 04:17AM

  Re: its do or die for coach Rath

VANRAM300July 06, 2019 09:29AM

  IMO here's the thing with this guy.....

roman18326July 06, 2019 10:29AM

  or

zn236July 06, 2019 11:12AM

  Re: its do or die for coach Rath

cool_hand_luke286July 08, 2019 08:40AM

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Rams43176July 08, 2019 08:49AM

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zn162July 08, 2019 09:02AM

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cool_hand_luke191July 08, 2019 10:15AM

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zn269July 08, 2019 10:28AM

  is that how you see it? really?

SunTzu_vs_Camus233July 08, 2019 08:47AM

  Re: its do or die for coach Rath

73Ram335July 06, 2019 04:56AM

  +1.....nm

Arkansas Ram236July 06, 2019 05:03AM

  What, exactly, is he accused of? (nm)

RockRam303July 06, 2019 06:35AM

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73Ram402July 06, 2019 06:56AM

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zn394July 06, 2019 11:16AM

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Classicalwit290July 06, 2019 12:04PM

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zn228July 06, 2019 02:33PM

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AlbaNY_Ram234July 06, 2019 05:51PM

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stlramz214July 06, 2019 10:52AM

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waterfield320July 06, 2019 12:15PM

  Everybody knows he is innocent . . .

stlramz314July 06, 2019 03:32PM

  Re: Everybody knows he is innocent . . .So?

den-the-coach378July 07, 2019 04:32AM

  Re: Everybody knows he is innocent . . .So?

stlramz232July 07, 2019 07:25PM

  More info here...

tonyde362July 06, 2019 10:30AM

  Poberesky is a very good trial attorney

waterfield333July 06, 2019 12:23PM

  We might be missing all kinds of context here, y’all...

Rams43260July 07, 2019 07:36AM

  Re: We might be missing all kinds of context here, y’all...

zn310July 07, 2019 08:16AM

  Re: We might be missing all kinds of context here, y’all...

Ekern55274July 07, 2019 08:49AM

  it's the law

zn251July 07, 2019 09:10AM

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Ekern55190July 07, 2019 09:15AM

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zn333July 07, 2019 09:27AM

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Ekern55192July 07, 2019 09:41AM

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zn205July 07, 2019 09:47AM

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Ekern55190July 08, 2019 06:40PM

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zn341July 08, 2019 08:32PM

  ???

waterfield197July 07, 2019 10:45AM

  Re: ???

Ekern55255July 08, 2019 06:52PM

  Re: ???

waterfield152July 08, 2019 08:07PM

  Re: it's the law

bigjimram21259July 07, 2019 06:21PM

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zn344July 07, 2019 06:49PM

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bigjimram21146July 08, 2019 08:39PM

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zn181July 08, 2019 09:49PM

  Some info from the prosecution's opening statement

AlbaNY_Ram347July 07, 2019 08:25AM

  Seriously ?

waterfield284July 07, 2019 10:57AM

  Re: Seriously ?

Rams43219July 07, 2019 11:09AM

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waterfield235July 07, 2019 11:27AM

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zn433July 07, 2019 12:02PM

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k3348July 07, 2019 01:12PM

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zn343July 07, 2019 01:37PM

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k3305July 08, 2019 10:16AM

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zn186July 08, 2019 10:31AM

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k3179July 08, 2019 04:11PM

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zn185July 08, 2019 04:38PM

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bigjimram21187July 07, 2019 06:31PM

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zn209July 07, 2019 06:56PM

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bigjimram21191July 08, 2019 08:44PM

  +1 (nm)

zn199July 08, 2019 09:50PM

  Re: We might be missing all kinds of context here, y’all...

bigjimram21224July 07, 2019 06:16PM

  Two schools of thought going on here

waterfield241July 07, 2019 08:26PM

  Re: Two schools of thought going on here

zn433July 07, 2019 08:35PM

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waterfield223July 08, 2019 06:54AM

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zn212July 08, 2019 08:28AM

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waterfield385July 08, 2019 08:57AM

  I didn't gender it

zn259July 08, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: I didn't gender it

waterfield283July 08, 2019 10:09AM

  Re: Two schools of thought going on here

bigjimram21192July 08, 2019 08:51PM