Quoteoldschoolramfan Just a response from a Father of 3 daughters. Hope Rath did not do what he was accused of, that's all. Guilty or innocent, it's still hard to move on after something like this. He never denied the accusation. He argued that he was too messed up to willfully intend the action. Since the law in question turns on willful intent, that was enough to trigger reasonableby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43Didn’t the Rams state that they were gonna do their own internal investigation? Apparently, they were satisfied by the results. The whole story was weird from the get-go, tbh. No, they didn't state that, that I recall. That's not the language they used. ....by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quoteoldschoolramfan The Rams kind of snuck Rath back "in" without anything being mentioned at all. He was found not guilty by a.jury in 20 minutes of deliberations..... man deserves to have his job back without a press conference It's not quite that simple since he never denied doing what he was accused of, plus the league and the Rams are not obligated to abide byby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 . If Whitworth was hurt in week one and you have Noteboom, rookie TBD and Allen as the left side of the OL that is not a good situation. It just isn't. And if that happens (or if Havenstein or Blythe gets hurt) the sub will be playing with two established vets, not four. Well I think the point stands since it is still comparative. Looking just at Edwards for an example. Scenaby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Probably so. I didn't see the game. But it's just not shocking at all to see mid-round guys not shine in their first ever game. I will bet both progress in the weeks ahead because with starters sitting they're likely going to play 40-50 snaps every week. Edwards actually got pretty good reviews from veteran OL watcher types. In terms of evaluating the depth now...I would not go sby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
I agree with the previous posts by dz and Albany. To add to that, they have also set themselves up so that if Talib misses time, they already have subs who can play man in the scheme as his replacement. One is Darious Williams---a guy McVay praised heavily after the Oakland game. Draft write-ups on Wms mention his ability to play man. Another is Long, of course, the rookie. He was knoby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteI’ve seen precious little praise for the Ram OL play in that Raider “game”. As in zero praise. Lol. First off you are not going to hear praise for the entire OL because it was put in an impossible situation. An inexperienced group of 5 who had never started together before going against an experienced D front. Plus they kept switching positions. Never in the past or future have you seen orby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 You’re talking about the OL strictly as a 5 man unit. I’m talking about the individual players and their respective results. Too many of those matchups were not in the Ram players favor. Imo... Yeah I am trying to say that all 5 matter because it's an OL, their cohesion matters and effects each player. It's impossible to separate that. And even given that, yes if you're aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteRams43 I’m NOT saying that the sky is falling. Just saying that I expected more. At least a flash or two. And I am not confining my disappointment to the OL, btw. You can't get a flash or 2 from 5 inexperienced linemen playing together for basically the first time going up against experienced defensive units. Once the OL is that way everything else is going toby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I’m NOT saying that the sky is falling. Just saying that I expected more. At least a flash or two. And I am not confining my disappointment to the OL, btw. You can't get a flash or 2 from 5 inexperienced linemen playing together for basically the first time going up against experienced defensive units. Once the OL is that way everything else is going to be less stable andby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotemerlin Problem here is people need to remember these are rookies who are learning what they're doing in the scheme while matching up with a higher level of competition. And then they're not just playing one position but multiple, which makes it harder. From that perspective starting with Edwards he had a good game. He was thrown in there at LT first series and acquitted hiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteMamaRAMa Quotezn QuoteMamaRAMa Quotesstrams I hafta find a new online source.. I guess the old ones get shut down by the NFL.. I probably won't start looking until week one, tho.. every year I'm able to find one or two that are reliable, but, like I said, every year brings a new source.. I have some info for you, if you're interested. I've already used it for preseason. I won't post it hby zn - Bucky's Pub
I'm sorry to hear that. Sorry for your loss. Good to hear you speak well of him.by zn - Bucky's Pub
Quotemax A stud OL, usually drafted in the first round will look good in one on one battles. We have a bunch of development guys drafted in the 3rd round or later. They all have holes in their games. We aren’t talking about Pace or Hutchinson here. And Kromer has a long history of doing very well with developmental guys. That's because he sees the diamonds in the rough which us fans can't.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteHazlet Hacksaw in the meantime - let Kromer do his magic. No individual lineman is going to shine in our eyes under these conditions. You can't start all new, inexperienced lines against veteran DLs. To US it's going to look like mayhem. But that is deceptive. They do get experience, and film to learn from....and will do it three more times. During the season they are not going toby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit Six carries for thirteen yards? Was he really that bad or did the offensive line play that poorly? Nothing was in sync. A 2nd or even 3rd string OL was going up against a deep defense, and that D did not fear the Rams passing game.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Coach Kromer, in particular, has his work cut out for him. Man, I really expected more from Edwards and Evans, in particular. Sigh... . As a rule no young OL player is going to shine if he is put out there with 4 other young players. Unit cohesion and chemistry count too much on the OL to ever expect anything different. If you field an entire OL of young inexperienced guyby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach IMO from an Offensive Line Perspective, you are looking for guys that showcase they belong and the stage is not that big for them. Granted the Rams did not have one starter in this game, but these guys are major depth guys and with Neary showcasing the most, let's hope they will get better with more preseason games under their belt because they just played the worst defensive lby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamgator Not that it's a problem as long as we win when it counts. But between sitting starters and lack of much at all during preseason games, McVay is perfect proof of why preseason games can and maybe SHOULD be eliminated. Cause McV does nothing with them when it comes to the starters. And this is no argument to keep them, BUT, McV would have to be a bad coach if he didn't get SOMETby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteMamaRAMa Quotesstrams I hafta find a new online source.. I guess the old ones get shut down by the NFL.. I probably won't start looking until week one, tho.. every year I'm able to find one or two that are reliable, but, like I said, every year brings a new source.. I have some info for you, if you're interested. I've already used it for preseason. I won't post it here. I tried to PM yoby zn - Bucky's Pub
QuoteRams43 I was among the skeptical, but who can argue with such results? There is still one thing, though. The Rams did come out rusty last year in that 1st half of that first game against the Raiders. Such a repeat against the Panthers on the road might be much more difficult to overcome. The margin against certain top NFL teams is so thin that a single loss could have dire consequencesby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam Greg Williams was thought to have an all but dead NFL career for reasons I don't need to elaborate. But, surprise, he resurfaced with the Rams, then became the interim HC of the Browns, and now is the DC of the Jets. You pronouncing your speculation as fact is nothing new around here. There is plenty of history of coaches with personal troubles that have resurrected their NFL cby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus " And of course the downside is that there are many people who have positive outlooks, great talent, perseverence, and so on, who get whammed by bad circumstances" - zn As my health issues are a testament to yer post!! lol Cancer ain't just for breakfast anymore!! lol And yet you are a testimony to everything YOU are saying here. You accent the positive, youby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax "I’m a Great Believer in Luck. The Harder I Work, the More Luck I Have." Often attribute to T Jefferson, though much debate over it. But the point here is McVay and Snead worked harder and smarter than previous Rams braintrusts. The good luck they "fell into" is well deserved. I think you are getting a LITTLE BIT on the "by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePeoriaRa Whenever my kids do accomplish something good, I tell them that they were lucky. That way they develop a good, lucky feeling. lolby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax "I’m a Great Believer in Luck. The Harder I Work, the More Luck I Have." Often attribute to T Jefferson, though much debate over it. But the point here is McVay and Snead worked harder and smarter than previous Rams braintrusts. The good luck they "fell into" is well deserved. I think you are getting a LITTLE BIT on the "mentioning luck mby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I mean, I’m already convinced, but you seem to need more evidence. Lol. "I know I;m right but one day you will catch up with me." (I'm giving you a hard time. Most of us think our own opinions are revealed truths sent to us personally by the football gods.) Naw as you said we just see it differently.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Well, you’re definitely entitled to your opinion, zn, but we certainly see this one differently. We’ve seen 2 years of both Shanny and McVay and there’s no comparison when considering their respective HC skills beyond the Offensive X’s and O’s. No what we've seen is a good head coach who inherited a team and inherited a good GM who knew the team already, v. a good head coachby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus If Goff were injured that'd be a tough one (AD too probably)...so that's a great example. I'm not saying the Rams woulda made the SB with Mannion...or maybe even the playoffs... but I bet we'd have winning record(9-7) with a very very bad QB. Cassel was 10x the QB Mannion is. Making the best of a bad situation is a skill/talent/ability...I don't knby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Good post, zn. But here’s the thing. It is my belief that the Snead/McVay combo would have found success anyway without Wade, Big Whit, Woods, etc.. Oh sure. They would have succeeded. Of that I have no doubt. But not in year one. It would have just taken longer. Do you think Shanahan is a good coach? I happen to think he is as good as McVay. But he did not inherit theby zn - RamsFootballFans.com