May 14, 2021 08:07AM
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PHDram
Define "tiny percentage" and "far more people." If we don't know numbers we don't know anything.


Hi PHDram.

I'm sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit when I saw you asking zn to provide definitions for "tiny percentage" and "far more people." I say this because, for the better part of a year, you've held firm that the government's efforts to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus through means of social distancing and limited lockdowns "are just as bad" as the virus itself. Despite repeated requests for verifiable data supporting this assertion, you've been unable to provide any in the face of over a half-million Americans who have verifiably died from Covid. Like I said, I just had to chuckle.

But because you asked, here's an article that discusses some of the side effect numbers associated with the Pfizer vaccine. It's not anecdotal. The article was based upon an actual study involving hundreds of thousands of people who have been vaccinated. I'll leave it up to you (and other readers) to determine if the numbers and effects cited constitute a "tiny percentage."


About 1 in 7 Who Get Pfizer Vaccine Will Have Any 'Systemic' Side Effect: Study

WEDNESDAY, April 28, 2021 (HealthDay News)
-- Only 13.5% of people will suffer systemic side effects after getting Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine, a new study finds.

These systemic symptoms include headache, fatigue and tenderness. Most side effects are mild and peak in the day after being vaccinated, and they only last for one to two days, according to the findings.

The analysis was done by researchers from King's College London using data on more than 627,000 people. They found fewer side effects with both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines than was seen in clinical trials. AstraZeneca's vaccine has not been approved for use in the United States.

Study author Dr. Cristina Menni said, "Our results support the aftereffects safety of both vaccines with fewer side effects in the general population than reported in the Pfizer and AstraZeneca experimental trials and should help allay safety concerns of people willing to get vaccinated."

The investigators also found lower infection rates in the 12 to 21 days after the first dose of the Pfizer (58%) and AstraZeneca (39%) vaccines, compared with people who weren't vaccinated. The drop in infection rates at least 21 days after the first dose of Pfizer was 69%, while it was 60% for AstraZeneca.

This large analysis looked at side effects including headache, fatigue, chills and shivering, diarrhea, fever, joint pain, muscle pain and nausea. They also looked at side effects where the injection took place in the arm, including pain at the injection site, swelling, tenderness, redness, itch, warmth and swollen armpit glands.

Other findings include:

▪︎Nearly 14% had side effects after the first Pfizer dose, 22% after the second Pfizer dose and 34% after the first AstraZeneca dose. The most common side effect was headache. Eight percent of people reported suffered headaches after the first Pfizer dose and 13% after the second Pfizer dose.

▪︎About a quarter (23%) of those who had the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine reported a headache.

▪︎The second most common side effect was fatigue. Eight percent and 14% of participants reported fatigue after the first and second dose of Pfizer vaccine, while 21% reported fatigue after their first dose of AstraZeneca vaccine. The most common local side effect was tenderness: 57% and 51% after the first and second dose of Pfizer vaccine, and 49% after the first dose of AstraZeneca vaccine.

▪︎Side effects were more common among people under age 55 and women.

▪︎People who had COVID-19 were three times more likely to have side effects after doses of the Pfizer vaccine than those who didn't have COVID-19. For those who had the AstraZeneca vaccine, that effect was nearly two times greater.

▪︎People who had COVID-19 were also more likely to have local side effects regardless of which vaccine they got.

"The data should reassure many people that in the real world, aftereffects of the vaccine are usually mild and short-lived, especially in the over 50s who are most at risk of the infection," said lead scientist Tim Spector, a professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London.

"The results also show up to 70% protection after three weeks following a single dose, which is fantastic news for the country, especially as more people have now had their second jabs," Spector said in a college news release.

The report was published April 27 in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal.

HealthDay

The Lancet



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  Nobody is getting COVID shots

ferragamo79643May 04, 2021 04:49PM

  Well, I ain't happy..

sstrams209May 04, 2021 05:18PM

  Re: Well, I ain't happy..

zn171May 05, 2021 05:32PM

  "Real Sacrifice"

waterfield258May 06, 2021 08:08AM

  Where ya heading on the dive trip?? (nm)

DaJudge135May 07, 2021 11:54AM

  Turneffe Island Resort - Belize...

sstrams246May 07, 2021 12:29PM

  just out pf curiosity

PHDram217May 10, 2021 05:32AM

  I have a lot of objections to it..

sstrams202May 10, 2021 06:11AM

  Re: I have a lot of objections to it..

PHDram172May 10, 2021 08:34AM

  Sorry, PHD...

sstrams263May 10, 2021 09:34AM

  Nice post

CeeZar189May 10, 2021 10:24AM

  Thanks, man..

sstrams265May 10, 2021 10:36AM

  Re: Sorry, PHD...

zn235May 10, 2021 01:16PM

  I feel the same way.

Ramgator251May 10, 2021 02:01PM

  but it is not true

zn186May 10, 2021 02:08PM

  Re: I feel the same way.

ramBRO315May 10, 2021 02:18PM

  Forget the past year. In just the last 8-9 months, I have heard.....

Ramgator176May 12, 2021 06:35AM

  Gator none of that was the science

zn153May 12, 2021 06:50AM

  I find it interesting that inconclusive "facts" are deemed NON Science.

Ramgator187May 12, 2021 10:19AM

  your list of "facts" is not the science, no

zn260May 12, 2021 10:58AM

  You called it exactly as I saw it and how MILLIONS did..... "Half facts".

Ramgator236May 12, 2021 11:48AM

  thanks for the compliment

zn185May 12, 2021 12:02PM

  A MAJOR problem is / was simple hygene.

Ramgator182May 13, 2021 02:33AM

  Re: A MAJOR problem is / was simple hygene.

zn209May 13, 2021 07:17AM

  Hygiene is a priority of my life lol

sstrams124May 13, 2021 08:19AM

  And no "findings" are "inconclusive."

PHDram200May 12, 2021 10:56AM

  Simply put...

Ramgator183May 12, 2021 11:41AM

  delete double post

zn138May 12, 2021 11:50AM

  Re: Sorry, PHD...

PHDram211May 10, 2021 08:41PM

  Thanks, PHD...

sstrams143May 11, 2021 02:31AM

  Re: Sorry, PHD...

AlbaNY_Ram162May 11, 2021 04:45AM

  interesting post

PHDram148May 11, 2021 05:12AM

  Re: interesting post

AlbaNY_Ram251May 11, 2021 06:42AM

  Thanks for that research AlbanNY

RAMbler240May 11, 2021 08:03AM

  The evidence is in-

waterfield145May 10, 2021 07:19PM

  I got the Covid vaccine but refuse to get a Flu Shot.

Ramgator217May 05, 2021 12:25PM

  Rural areas are going to be a problem

Drew2839261May 06, 2021 08:00AM

  Yep

IowaRam251May 06, 2021 10:15AM

  I'm from a rural area myself

Drew2839301May 07, 2021 09:14AM

  Re: Nobody is getting COVID shots

sacram317May 07, 2021 09:07AM

  Re: Nobody is getting COVID shots

MamaRAMa204May 07, 2021 02:20PM

  Things are moving slowly up here.

canadaram171May 10, 2021 05:55PM

  Re: Things are moving slowly up here.

waterfield124May 10, 2021 07:58PM

  Nothing is "proven"

PHDram194May 11, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Nothing is "proven"

zn182May 11, 2021 04:05AM

  Re: Nothing is "proven"

PHDram136May 11, 2021 04:52AM

  Re: Nothing is "proven"

zn166May 11, 2021 06:56AM

  Re: Nothing is "proven"

PHDram131May 11, 2021 07:19AM

  Los Angeles County expects Herd Immunity by July

waterfield236May 10, 2021 07:43PM

  We're pretty much back to normal in Texas..

sstrams154May 11, 2021 06:23AM

  Re: We're pretty much back to normal in Texas..

zn175May 11, 2021 06:57AM

  Re: We're pretty much back to normal in Texas..

MamaRAMa211May 11, 2021 08:26AM

  Re: We're pretty much back to normal in Texas..

zn205May 11, 2021 02:26PM

  Rams neck gaiters

MamaRAMa164May 11, 2021 02:47PM

  I got Ram gaiter for Christmas..

sstrams123May 11, 2021 04:04PM

  I hear when you put it over your mouth, it makes you tell HILARIOUS jokes!!!

Ramgator218May 11, 2021 05:00PM

  Re: Rams neck gaiters

zn117May 11, 2021 05:25PM

  What I don't understand..

sstrams227May 11, 2021 04:03PM

  Re: What I don't understand..

zn182May 11, 2021 05:51PM

  I would just add...

RAMbler283May 12, 2021 10:18AM

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zn150May 12, 2021 10:47AM

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MamaRAMa331May 12, 2021 10:47AM

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zn138May 12, 2021 11:02AM

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MamaRAMa142May 12, 2021 11:09AM

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zn226May 12, 2021 11:17AM

  Re: I would just add... Attachments

RAMbler124May 12, 2021 11:05AM

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MamaRAMa126May 12, 2021 11:11AM

  Re: I would just add...

RAMbler123May 12, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: I would just add...

zn219May 12, 2021 02:51PM

  For the sake of accuracy

CeeZar375May 11, 2021 08:28AM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

zn157May 11, 2021 02:14PM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

CeeZar179May 13, 2021 12:47PM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

zn119May 13, 2021 03:56PM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

AlbaNY_Ram150May 14, 2021 05:13AM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

zn121May 14, 2021 05:19AM

  Re: For the sake of accuracy

zn151May 15, 2021 06:38AM

  Actually, its the only way.

CeeZar325May 16, 2021 06:37AM

  far from it...it's not even a "way" at all

zn196May 16, 2021 06:54AM

  Re: far from it...it's not even a "way" at all

CeeZar156May 16, 2021 12:31PM

  and he did not say

zn215May 16, 2021 01:18PM

  Bless your heart - nm

CeeZar247May 16, 2021 01:21PM

  bless the facts

zn170May 16, 2021 01:51PM

  LOL

CeeZar249May 16, 2021 02:27PM

  Re: LOL

zn157May 16, 2021 02:45PM

  Re: LOL

CeeZar213May 16, 2021 03:01PM

  that's a misunderstanding

zn180May 16, 2021 03:37PM

  It was a simple question

CeeZar143May 16, 2021 03:47PM

  huh? 46% of US has had at least one shot...Cali is at 62%

Rampage2K-237May 11, 2021 08:33PM

  a lot of those shots were out of the gate

ferragamo79147May 13, 2021 04:52PM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

zn152May 13, 2021 08:22PM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

PHDram125May 14, 2021 03:51AM

  look it up

zn223May 14, 2021 04:31AM

  you made the assertion.

PHDram135May 14, 2021 04:57AM

  I'm not going to bicker all day PhD

zn125May 14, 2021 05:17AM

  Lol. OK.

PHDram154May 14, 2021 05:29AM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

ramBRO129May 14, 2021 08:07AM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

PHDram115May 14, 2021 08:30AM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

ramBRO117May 14, 2021 08:52AM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

PHDram169May 14, 2021 09:02AM

  Re: a lot of those shots were out of the gate

zn114May 14, 2021 09:49AM

  Uh huh. NM

PHDram155May 14, 2021 09:50AM

  side effects v. health risks--people are confusing things

zn130May 14, 2021 09:33AM

  Re: Nobody is getting COVID shots

Axl155May 14, 2021 06:52AM

  Re: Nobody is getting COVID shots

Rampage2K-138May 16, 2021 08:35PM

  Countering Common Vaccine Concerns

zn177May 15, 2021 06:28AM

  Re: Countering Common Vaccine Concerns

ramBRO110May 15, 2021 03:00PM

  be reasonable

zn110May 15, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: Countering Common Vaccine Concerns

Rampage2K-115May 16, 2021 08:38PM

  The whole thing is a frickin joke

IowaRam199May 15, 2021 10:43AM

  If you're vaccinated , you no longer need to wear a mask

IowaRam174May 15, 2021 10:47AM

  Re: If you're vaccinated , you no longer need to wear a mask

zn198May 15, 2021 11:10AM

  Nobody's checking..

sstrams254May 15, 2021 03:10PM

  Re: Nobody's checking..

zn149May 15, 2021 03:18PM

  I believe the chip is coming...

sstrams155May 15, 2021 07:36PM

  Re: I believe the chip is coming...

zn242May 15, 2021 08:56PM

  That's cool, but surely..

sstrams148May 16, 2021 04:07AM

  Re: That's cool, but surely..

zn125May 16, 2021 04:47AM

  little league baseball fields were packed today

IowaRam119May 15, 2021 03:56PM

  Lids still play baseball?

PHDram121May 17, 2021 03:35AM

  Re: Nobody's checking..

Rampage2K-146May 16, 2021 08:42PM

  here are the CDC guidelines

zn155May 15, 2021 11:16AM

  This is whats been bugging me

IowaRam213May 15, 2021 03:42PM

  that's not vague

zn157May 15, 2021 03:50PM

  I'm kind of talking simpler things

IowaRam139May 15, 2021 04:05PM

  Re: I'm kind of talking simpler things

zn226May 15, 2021 04:12PM

  So, what is the point?

sstrams114May 16, 2021 12:59PM

  that's not what the CDC said

zn115May 16, 2021 01:14PM

  Fauci on masks as of 5/13

zn119May 16, 2021 01:46PM

  "falling all over each other" lol!

sstrams122May 16, 2021 02:38PM

  Well, I guess I didn't make my point..

sstrams123May 16, 2021 02:34PM

  He's not telling us to "obey state laws," not in the way you seem to mean that

zn123May 16, 2021 02:54PM

  I'm just saying that..

sstrams145May 16, 2021 03:06PM

  The floodgates are open

CeeZar186May 16, 2021 03:25PM

  Re: The floodgates are open

MamaRAMa171May 22, 2021 05:18AM

  Re: The floodgates are open

CeeZar225May 22, 2021 06:02AM

  Re: The floodgates are open

MamaRAMa256May 22, 2021 06:12AM

  Re: The floodgates are open

zn129May 22, 2021 07:18AM

  Re: I'm just saying that..

zn191May 16, 2021 03:30PM

  That's not quite accurate

PHDram259May 17, 2021 03:10AM

  Re: Nobody is getting COVID shots

IowaRam202May 22, 2021 03:55AM

  Gonzo and Pepe before vaccination

CeeZar254May 22, 2021 04:46AM