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That is a good point

September 29, 2021 09:36AM
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stlramz
But it seems from your season/statistical layout that you will only be happy with trade if they the championship a la 1999.

It's clear right now that the Rams have a team that can win it all. Whether they will us another issue. What appears settled is that #9 makes this a better possibility than 16 by a long way.

That said, I have no problem with disagreement and I would hope people can disagree without being disagreeable.

My take has always been nuances and not too many people can get that around here
you seem to be able to pick up on that...you see things more clearly.

Some here are just sycophantic fans--
some are fans but also call them the way we see them

So, you are right, the trade was
(1) expensive and that has to tbe considered
(2) Stafford was an upgrade to Goff
(3) Rams fans have been talking Super Bowl win since Day 1 of the trade and even more so now

So, to answer your question, no, Stafford does not have to win s Super Bowl to be a good trade
however, number 3--we need to pump the brakes a little

Bears clearly suck, Colts were giving us a hard time--and they lost their QB, we won by 3
Bucs secondary was depleted

All I said was this: Can we wait and see?

I became a believer in the 99 Rams not after we beat the 49ers but when he lost to Tennessee
because they were a good team and we were down so much and came back and a missed FG
kept us from OT and a shot at winning

When I see easy blown coverages for long TDs I think "great, a Rams TD" but I also think
that kind of thing does not happen all year. I have seen too much football to think that
easy breaks continue

Teams will see what has happened and will adust. It will not be a cakewalk to a Super Bowl win
and you saying "clear right now that the Rams have a team that can win it all"

I do not think it is unreasonable or disloyal to say, "can we at least wait and see"?

And it is not being rude to say it's early

As far as the disagreeable. And this does not apply to you
It's the people here with balanced takes that get attacked here, those who say things
that have some negative aspects that get attacked or when there is an opinion
that disagrees with the groupthink here.

The pollyannas cannot seem to take much criticism of the Rams.

I posted that Goff regressed after the Chiefs game pretty early on, People can look it up and see
I don't remember, but it was pretty quick, as quick as anyone and lots of the pollyannas got on me
and I was vindicated with the Stafford trade. No one ever said, "You were right"

Don't get me started in Brian Allen. I took boatloads of crap on that one. And even when he got the
ob there were all sorts of qualifiers like "He got better"

Well, of course, he got better, all players get better with time and experience. But I was the one who
said he was better than Blythe and THAT as the point. Even when he was playing be was young
and not perfect, but he was better than Blythe then he got hurt then he got COVID. It held him back
but people here still attacked me.

Then he got a chance and full rehab, and experience now he's better, but still, none of the extreme
critics (the reasonable ones have) have the guts to say, "I was wrong" they have to qualify it
as "Well, he sure got a lot better"

Look, I make lots of mistakes. I was high on Lewis and he's not turned out great. I was very high on Rapp
and he's okay, but not yet where I want him to be.

But I am not stupid. And I know what Stafford was and is. I don't just watch Rams football. And I have
watched the NFL for a lot of years and I have seen a lot of Rams teams and saidly, there have been
a lot of front-running Rams teams that faded.

So, is this one of them? There is no way to know.
The 1973 Rams looked unbeatable after the 1973 Cowboys game
Same in 1978
and it goes on---

Let's enjoy the "now" and pump the brake a little

I saw a meme where a Rams fan was mocking Tom Brady.
The guy has 7 rings and beat us twice, and the guy is mocking Brady
after a regular-season win.

think about that.
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  Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

stlramz794September 27, 2021 12:32PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

chico n da rams204September 27, 2021 12:41PM

  I dunno, man... It was soooo much we gave up and..

sstrams252September 27, 2021 01:00PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

Rampage2K-193September 27, 2021 01:09PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

stlramz136September 27, 2021 01:13PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

Rampage2K-146September 27, 2021 01:21PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

BerendsenRam244September 27, 2021 01:13PM

  Stafford is a class act and a exceptional QB

den-the-coach304September 27, 2021 01:33PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

oldschoolramfan142September 27, 2021 01:34PM

  About those first 2 Stafford drives…

Rams43154September 27, 2021 03:30PM

  Re: About those first 2 Stafford drives…

AlbaNY_Ram140September 27, 2021 05:21PM

  Re: About those first 2 Stafford drives…

Ekern55209September 27, 2021 06:39PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

BeachBoy148September 27, 2021 02:22PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

Classicalwit274September 27, 2021 02:28PM

  I would like to quote Jim Hanifan on how the new QB looks

Atlantic Ram525September 27, 2021 03:53PM

  Not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade? We seen this the same stlramz

Anonymous User153September 27, 2021 04:04PM

  The question I have is....

moklerman192September 27, 2021 04:29PM

  Re: The question I have is.... No sir moklerman.. If they do:

Anonymous User170September 27, 2021 05:10PM

  Good point.

stlramz134September 27, 2021 05:21PM

  Hey, I can admit it...

JamesJM159September 27, 2021 06:15PM

  Re: The question I have is....

Ekern55148September 27, 2021 06:43PM

  Re: The question I have is....

Rampage2K-142September 27, 2021 07:39PM

  Re: The question I have is....

moklerman218September 28, 2021 07:12AM

  Re: The question I have is....

stlramz124September 28, 2021 10:56AM

  Superior QBs make their coaches look smart

RockRam87September 28, 2021 07:29AM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

george_allen153September 27, 2021 04:53PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

Drew2839279September 27, 2021 05:34PM

  D. Watson

stlramz419September 27, 2021 08:13PM

  Re: D. Watson

21Dog134September 28, 2021 04:17AM

  I didn't think they'd do either...

JamesJM137September 28, 2021 11:40AM

  MATTHEW STAFFORD and TERRY BRADSHAW

IowaRam204September 27, 2021 05:50PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

kw13158September 27, 2021 06:14PM

  Re: Anybody not liking this Matthew Stafford Trade?

RAMbler236September 28, 2021 11:17AM

  I had no doubt

Stafford9115September 28, 2021 12:49PM

  Cannot not wait and see?

JimYoungblood53147September 28, 2021 03:34PM

  Of course you can wait.

stlramz211September 28, 2021 03:55PM

  That is a good point

JimYoungblood53126September 29, 2021 09:36AM

  Probably won't stop there...

moklerman213September 29, 2021 09:56AM

  There it is

JimYoungblood53255September 29, 2021 11:25AM

  Couple of things here, 53…

Rams43102September 29, 2021 12:33PM

  Uh-huh

JimYoungblood53200September 29, 2021 01:30PM

  Also proves my thesis

JimYoungblood53109September 29, 2021 11:33AM

  Re: Also proves my thesis

moklerman108September 29, 2021 12:16PM

  Why is that?

JimYoungblood5397September 29, 2021 01:23PM

  Re: Why is that?

Rams4389September 29, 2021 01:56PM

  See? Case in point.

JimYoungblood5373September 29, 2021 05:56PM

  Re: See? Case in point.

Rams43258September 29, 2021 05:59PM

  Yeah, I know

JimYoungblood5369September 29, 2021 06:10PM

  Re: Yeah, I know

Rams4368September 29, 2021 06:14PM

  I don't think that's accurate

JimYoungblood5369September 29, 2021 06:26PM

  Re: I don't think that's accurate

Rams4370September 29, 2021 06:58PM

  Ah, I see

JimYoungblood5363September 29, 2021 07:01PM

  Re: See? Case in point.

moklerman69September 29, 2021 06:03PM

  Come on. It's the only answer to that question

JimYoungblood5367September 29, 2021 06:13PM

  Re: Come on. It's the only answer to that question

moklerman63September 29, 2021 06:38PM

  I don't fall for false narratives

JimYoungblood5372September 29, 2021 06:50PM

  Re: I don't fall for false narratives

moklerman69September 29, 2021 07:19PM

  Three games is enough !

waterfield80September 29, 2021 02:12PM

  LOL....

JamesJM88September 29, 2021 02:48PM

  Re: Why is that?

moklerman218September 29, 2021 03:25PM

  This begs the question

JimYoungblood5366September 29, 2021 06:00PM

  Re: Cannot not wait and see?

JYB139September 28, 2021 04:46PM

  You're right

JimYoungblood53228September 29, 2021 09:41AM

  all good points

Stafford992September 29, 2021 06:39PM

  I am fine

JimYoungblood5393September 29, 2021 06:52PM

  good to here

Stafford975September 29, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: good to here

JimYoungblood5371September 29, 2021 07:02PM

  Wasn

Stafford9242September 29, 2021 07:09PM

  Wow

Stafford9264September 28, 2021 04:51PM

  Re: Cannot not wait and see?

Ekern55162September 28, 2021 06:33PM

  Preach!

Stafford9690September 28, 2021 04:42PM

  LMAO! you are the kind of guy.....

Stafford9121September 29, 2021 12:02PM

  For me it depends....

JamesJM570September 29, 2021 03:00PM

  If we win, I love close games

Stafford983September 29, 2021 06:52PM