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merlin
So no matter what you think about Goff or how things went down with blaming McVay and all that, the fact remains that the Rams paid a LOT to move out from under Goff and his contract. So Eisen is absolutely correct in saying the Rams seem to be relieved he is gone, as well as that Stafford is in house.
Eisen didn't get all deep on this issue wrt the hows and whys either. None of that matters really. But Ike called Stafford a breath of fresh air. McVay said what he said. We can try to spin these things individually but put it all together you see a pretty clear tapestry IMO.
I just think it's a complicated thing and that the simpler, more reductive takes don't work. Goff's issues in 2020 had more to do with inconsistency than being
bad--he wasn't Wentz, and in fact they won some games because of him. (And there are games where he melted down trying to make plays when he shouldn't, ie. pressing, which led to spurts of multiple turnovers.) But either way IMO the real issue and why he's gone is a disconnect between coach and player, and under those conditions, with a winning coach, it's the qb that leaves. Either way Brad Holmes knows exactly who Goff is and turned down a high 2021 draft pick to go with the Goff trade. So does Holmes know less about Goff than Bruce?
I have no complaints about Stafford. He's a good, savvy vet--and McVay will listen to him which helps everything.
As for the history. Which is all it is now--history. Eisen did say that we really don't know what happened--and he knows the public version of the story. He flat out says that we don't know the full story behind what Wyche said (that coach and qb needed marriage counseling.) I do think that McV's abrasive approach as a qb coach did not work and that a lot of what we saw in 2020 was Goff playing at times without confidence. There are coaches Thiry interviewed who put that on McVay--IMO, odds are that approach did not work with Goff. McVay himself said he had communication issues. So at least some of the disconnect is on McVay. I don't know how much of the disconnect is on Goff.
It's funny about trying to objectively discuss McVay's role in the disconnect. Often what I get is people exaggerate what is being said by the people they want to argue with. I have actually seen people declare that our stance (ie. those of us who criticize McVay's role in what went on in 2020) is that Goff was good and everything is to be blamed on McVay. It's funny how people can't listen when issues are so emotion.
No one on the face of the planet that I know of actually says Goff was fine and it was all on McVay. But that kind of over-reaction shows up---name the parts of the disconnect that belong to McVay and someone is bound to say see you blame it ALL on McVay--no matter what was really said. Bizarrely, it's like discussing politics sometimes.
The issue is wearing out though. I doubt anyone changes their minds, and the time to air it all out and see where people stand is going away I think. Or maybe I am just less interested.
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2021 09:16AM by zn.