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May 03, 2021 03:24PM
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Saguaro
I've been posting good and bad, agree and disagree, optimistic and pessimistic, things re the Rams here for over a decade.
Old timers here know that.

You've resorted to a mischaracterization, but can't stop you and won't try.

I hated the Greg Robinson pick and loved the Aaron Donald pick.

I hated, hated, hated the Brian Quick pick.

But I loved the Tavon Austin pick.

Go back and see what I said about last year's picks. Wait, you can't, cause I didn't have a strong opinion about any of those guys, although I do recall praising Cam Akers a little after he was drafted and I took a look at him.

So in this case I do have an opinion. So what.

I've been right and wrong about draft picks. Sometimes I was wrong when I agreed with the Rams. Sometimes I was right when I disagreed.
But I like to discuss it. It's what fans do. In no case do I declare that my position is the only possible right one.

The thing to see here is that YES, sometimes the fans end up being right. Sometimes they do.

An appeal that says trust the professionals is self-refuting because we both know that a lot of other teams' professionals would NOT have drafted Tutu at 57.
So it's not just professionals against arrogant amateurs. It's which professionals do you agree with.

I see no reason to harangue people for not toeing the Ram line.

You my friend are on a roll.

Now to be perfectly clear--I say that because you are articulating (quite well) a position (actually positions plural) that I myself hold.

But in cheering you on I am doing more than just simplistic sides-taking and partisan flag-waving or piling on your debate opponent.

It's not just that you are articulating positions I too happen tp hold, and feelings about all this I happen to feel, but above all you are doing it quite well. Very well-spoken. Lots of good comments. In fact--be forewarned: I will probably be freely stealing from how you put a lot of these things.

So, bravo. smileys with beer









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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2021 03:25PM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

LMU932053May 03, 2021 12:21PM

  That is a great move!

Stafford9519May 03, 2021 12:26PM

  Anything has to be better than the Allen

RamsDynasty374May 04, 2021 10:26AM

  Just awful

Deadpool826May 03, 2021 12:30PM

  Re: Just awful

den-the-coach555May 03, 2021 12:41PM

  Then what

Deadpool482May 03, 2021 12:53PM

  Re: Then what

PHDram526May 03, 2021 01:26PM

  He flamed out everywhere in Cleveland

Ram_Ruler389May 03, 2021 01:32PM

  Or maybe he had a much better oline coach in LA. You know, the one that's gone now. nm.

Saguaro448May 03, 2021 01:35PM

  Re: Or maybe he had a much better oline coach in LA. You know, the one that's gone now. nm.

PHDram345May 03, 2021 01:45PM

  ??????????? So who takes his place

ferragamo79973May 03, 2021 12:39PM

  Bobby Evans

den-the-coach495May 03, 2021 12:42PM

  I feel a lot better

Stafford9412May 03, 2021 02:14PM

  Re: I feel a lot better

oldschoolramfan314May 04, 2021 08:12AM

  Anchrum or Evans is my guess

Ram_Ruler421May 03, 2021 01:24PM

  Re: Anchrum or Evans -->Anchrum is better

Steve567May 03, 2021 11:27PM

  Re: Rams drafted ZERO OLINE. They must think differently.

oldschoolramfan401May 03, 2021 12:43PM

  We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Saguaro451May 03, 2021 01:05PM

  I got one!!!!! Fans . . .

stlramz602May 03, 2021 01:25PM

  What about the guys who are smarter than the scouts?

PA48386May 05, 2021 05:48PM

  Re: We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Ramdemic1029May 03, 2021 01:26PM

  Easy now

Deadpool362May 03, 2021 01:29PM

  Lol, sure. Acronyms are free.

Saguaro448May 03, 2021 01:33PM

  What have they done to be distrusted though?

Ram_Ruler809May 03, 2021 01:41PM

  How is having an opinion "treating them" a certain way?

Saguaro933May 03, 2021 01:53PM

  *sigh* please don't use "literal" counterpoints here.

Ram_Ruler805May 03, 2021 01:59PM

  I'll post as I please.

Saguaro939May 03, 2021 02:11PM

  Well that's fine. Chase your own tail

Ram_Ruler455May 03, 2021 02:19PM

  I'm not in either one of those crowds.

Saguaro396May 03, 2021 02:58PM

  you my friend

zn478May 03, 2021 03:24PM

  Do you know?

Saguaro415May 03, 2021 03:35PM

  Sob! I always tear up when I read posts like this!

Ramadune300May 04, 2021 12:32PM

  Re: Sob! I always tear up when I read posts like this!

zn309May 04, 2021 03:14PM

  You seem to be personalizing this

Ram_Ruler285May 03, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: Well that's fine. Chase your own tail

zn262May 04, 2021 07:42AM

  Re: Lol, sure. Acronyms are free.

PHDram589May 03, 2021 01:43PM

  Why are you putting "stupid" in quotes. Are you quoting someone?

Saguaro786May 03, 2021 01:46PM

  ditch the quotation marks......

21Dog810May 03, 2021 02:07PM

  Hey! :) Go Bulldogs! nm.

Saguaro334May 03, 2021 03:05PM

  Re: Why are you putting "stupid" in quotes. Are you quoting someone?

PHDram330May 03, 2021 03:11PM

  Re: We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Ekern55267May 03, 2021 06:42PM

  This was my take too.

Ram_Ruler297May 03, 2021 01:30PM

  Who is plan B?

CeeZar729May 03, 2021 01:03PM

  I'd have left him where he was...

DaJudge334May 03, 2021 01:13PM

  Re: It doesn't have to be permanent....

dzrams769May 03, 2021 01:23PM

  Why move a guy...

DaJudge296May 03, 2021 02:03PM

  Rams are seeking to find their best 5 to start come September...

Rams43494May 03, 2021 05:45PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

AlbaNY_Ram337May 03, 2021 01:49PM

  I will wildly speculate

PHDram404May 03, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

zn333May 03, 2021 05:20PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

Ekern55273May 03, 2021 06:56PM

  Didn't the Browns already try that?

Drew2839437May 03, 2021 02:05PM

  You mean the Browns who were a shambles when he was drafted?

promomasterj504May 03, 2021 03:18PM

  I didn't say he was worthless

Drew2839282May 03, 2021 03:34PM

  If this is true then our line just got a whole lot beefier

Ram_Ruler338May 03, 2021 02:32PM

  there are legit questions about the OL

zn489May 03, 2021 02:47PM

  positive spin- OL might be close to their ONLY 2022 need

LMU93451May 04, 2021 03:54AM

  Re: positive spin- OL might be close to their ONLY 2022 need

zn426May 04, 2021 05:36AM

  One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

PHDram576May 04, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams456May 04, 2021 07:25AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn275May 04, 2021 07:48AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams328May 04, 2021 08:04AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn375May 04, 2021 09:26AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams301May 04, 2021 09:34AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn760May 04, 2021 09:45AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams386May 04, 2021 09:54AM

  What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

promomasterj291May 04, 2021 10:30AM

  Re: What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

zn320May 04, 2021 11:36AM

  How much is the cap in 2022?

promomasterj300May 04, 2021 12:17PM

  what would the cap have to be in 2022 for them to be under?

zn278May 04, 2021 01:28PM

  And you don't get points for painting tge rams into a corner.

PHDram251May 04, 2021 02:33PM

  one at a time guys

zn247May 04, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

dzrams786May 04, 2021 02:46PM

  lol ... so I repeat myself, again

zn331May 04, 2021 03:04PM

  Re: You should be more clear...

dzrams635May 04, 2021 03:18PM

  Re: You should be more clear...

zn350May 04, 2021 03:36PM

  Rams have shown a clear pattern of developing their own linemen and giving them a chance to play.

Ram_Ruler277May 04, 2021 03:22PM

  and so who is the LOT they're developing

zn384May 04, 2021 03:32PM

  My opinion is that it's noteboom

Ram_Ruler273May 04, 2021 03:36PM

  Re: My opinion is that it's noteboom

zn264May 04, 2021 03:44PM

  No on Notebloom

Stafford9263May 04, 2021 04:31PM

  Evans kind of fits the classic prototypical guard prospect.

Ram_Ruler269May 04, 2021 05:03PM

  Re: No on Notebloom

zn374May 04, 2021 05:04PM

  Re: No on Notebloom

Stafford9473May 04, 2021 08:26PM

  where does the $13m number come from?

promomasterj332May 05, 2021 10:16AM

  Re: where does the $13m number come from?

dzrams288May 05, 2021 01:21PM

  Wouldn't surprise me....

JamesJM258May 05, 2021 01:29PM

  You can add another 4

PHDram491May 05, 2021 02:26PM

  Re: You can add another 4

dzrams265May 05, 2021 02:49PM

  Just because Rams don't reveal their plan doesn't mean there isn't one

RockRam282May 04, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: Just because Rams don't reveal their plan doesn't mean there isn't one

zn272May 04, 2021 01:38PM

  That's not what I said.

RockRam334May 04, 2021 02:33PM

  Re: That's not what I said.

zn411May 04, 2021 03:21PM

  Let me know what team

PHDram289May 04, 2021 02:52PM

  Re: Let me know what team

zn268May 04, 2021 03:43PM

  Drafting is a plan, but not a certainty

promomasterj329May 05, 2021 10:10AM

  all one big hairy straw man

zn297May 05, 2021 10:28AM

  Funny, you seem to know what there options are

promomasterj439May 05, 2021 11:35AM

  funny who doesn;t know what their options are

zn251May 05, 2021 11:41AM

  you can add trade into the mix

PHDram260May 05, 2021 11:57AM

  Re: you can add trade into the mix

zn443May 05, 2021 12:18PM

  Look at the composition of our O-line in 2018

promomasterj330May 03, 2021 03:13PM

  As much as an importance it is for him to step in....

roman18654May 04, 2021 04:05AM