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Re: What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

May 04, 2021 11:36AM
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promomasterj
Is it like the Saints who were up against the cap every year and kept going to the playoffs anyway. Sounds ok to me.

And none of us know what the 2022 cap will be or what deals will be restricted and who will be traded / released. Kind of pointless to worry about it now. The Rams have, and will continue to manage the cap as they need.

Cap hell is when a team has to cut players to get under the cap, to the point where it affects their performance as a team. It happens. Backloading is one especially good way to get there. That's why Demoff and Snead have both openly said it's a thing you want to avoid if you can. According to them, it's bad policy. They had to do it in 2021 because they are carrying 2 qbs on the cap, to the tune of a combined 44.7 M. More than any other team. To get around that, they had to subtract future cap space to do any business. That's what the restructuring is about.

So. The Rams have several choices in 2022 when it comes to the OL. As it stands they have to replace and/or pay guys at 2 positions--center and left tackle.

One way out of replacing a left OT without high draft picks is to sign a free agent. That's why the small portion of this having to do with cap hell came up. I know that's all that interested you, but it really is only a portion of the story. Cap hell came up cause someone said you could mortgage the cap again to get enough money to sign a starting caliber left OT. There are 2 responses to that. No you can't keep restructuring, eventually you cut your own throat doing that, And that wasn't even the major point. The major point is that it is rare for a starting caliber left OT to become a free agent.

And remember since it's both tackle and center, 2 things are happening. You are either buying both of them, in which case it's even more money, or you are letting one go--and possibly both--and starting over.

Okay so buying a free agent isn't all that likely at left OT, what about drafting one and starting a rookie? Finding a good left OT after the 1st round is rare too.

So that's a bunch of combined problems.

The solutions I am hearing so far? Be quiet, we don't want to hear it. The team always does things right. These things are easy to fix because the team is run by geniuses who never have problems.

cool smiley

It's not convincing.

BTW I didn't cover the whole set of problems and issues that come up with having both left OT and center unsettled in the same year. I touched on a lot of it but not all of it.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2021 11:58AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

LMU931656May 03, 2021 12:21PM

  That is a great move!

Stafford9455May 03, 2021 12:26PM

  Anything has to be better than the Allen

RamsDynasty228May 04, 2021 10:26AM

  Just awful

Deadpool753May 03, 2021 12:30PM

  Re: Just awful

den-the-coach495May 03, 2021 12:41PM

  Then what

Deadpool417May 03, 2021 12:53PM

  Re: Then what

PHDram396May 03, 2021 01:26PM

  He flamed out everywhere in Cleveland

Ram_Ruler327May 03, 2021 01:32PM

  Or maybe he had a much better oline coach in LA. You know, the one that's gone now. nm.

Saguaro361May 03, 2021 01:35PM

  Re: Or maybe he had a much better oline coach in LA. You know, the one that's gone now. nm.

PHDram279May 03, 2021 01:45PM

  ??????????? So who takes his place

ferragamo79905May 03, 2021 12:39PM

  Bobby Evans

den-the-coach352May 03, 2021 12:42PM

  I feel a lot better

Stafford9346May 03, 2021 02:14PM

  Re: I feel a lot better

oldschoolramfan241May 04, 2021 08:12AM

  Anchrum or Evans is my guess

Ram_Ruler322May 03, 2021 01:24PM

  Re: Anchrum or Evans -->Anchrum is better

Steve441May 03, 2021 11:27PM

  Re: Rams drafted ZERO OLINE. They must think differently.

oldschoolramfan337May 03, 2021 12:43PM

  We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Saguaro371May 03, 2021 01:05PM

  I got one!!!!! Fans . . .

stlramz544May 03, 2021 01:25PM

  What about the guys who are smarter than the scouts?

PA48317May 05, 2021 05:48PM

  Re: We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Ramdemic830May 03, 2021 01:26PM

  Easy now

Deadpool292May 03, 2021 01:29PM

  Lol, sure. Acronyms are free.

Saguaro327May 03, 2021 01:33PM

  What have they done to be distrusted though?

Ram_Ruler731May 03, 2021 01:41PM

  How is having an opinion "treating them" a certain way?

Saguaro829May 03, 2021 01:53PM

  *sigh* please don't use "literal" counterpoints here.

Ram_Ruler594May 03, 2021 01:59PM

  I'll post as I please.

Saguaro767May 03, 2021 02:11PM

  Well that's fine. Chase your own tail

Ram_Ruler377May 03, 2021 02:19PM

  I'm not in either one of those crowds.

Saguaro314May 03, 2021 02:58PM

  you my friend

zn341May 03, 2021 03:24PM

  Do you know?

Saguaro325May 03, 2021 03:35PM

  Sob! I always tear up when I read posts like this!

Ramadune228May 04, 2021 12:32PM

  Re: Sob! I always tear up when I read posts like this!

zn240May 04, 2021 03:14PM

  You seem to be personalizing this

Ram_Ruler220May 03, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: Well that's fine. Chase your own tail

zn185May 04, 2021 07:42AM

  Re: Lol, sure. Acronyms are free.

PHDram513May 03, 2021 01:43PM

  Why are you putting "stupid" in quotes. Are you quoting someone?

Saguaro712May 03, 2021 01:46PM

  ditch the quotation marks......

21Dog747May 03, 2021 02:07PM

  Hey! :) Go Bulldogs! nm.

Saguaro257May 03, 2021 03:05PM

  Re: Why are you putting "stupid" in quotes. Are you quoting someone?

PHDram263May 03, 2021 03:11PM

  Re: We need an acronym for people that like whatever the Rams do. ILWTRD.

Ekern55196May 03, 2021 06:42PM

  This was my take too.

Ram_Ruler221May 03, 2021 01:30PM

  Who is plan B?

CeeZar654May 03, 2021 01:03PM

  I'd have left him where he was...

DaJudge251May 03, 2021 01:13PM

  Re: It doesn't have to be permanent....

dzrams697May 03, 2021 01:23PM

  Why move a guy...

DaJudge219May 03, 2021 02:03PM

  Rams are seeking to find their best 5 to start come September...

Rams43352May 03, 2021 05:45PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

AlbaNY_Ram269May 03, 2021 01:49PM

  I will wildly speculate

PHDram339May 03, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

zn253May 03, 2021 05:20PM

  Re: so Corbett is the starting center as many suspected

Ekern55197May 03, 2021 06:56PM

  Didn't the Browns already try that?

Drew2839355May 03, 2021 02:05PM

  You mean the Browns who were a shambles when he was drafted?

promomasterj338May 03, 2021 03:18PM

  I didn't say he was worthless

Drew2839214May 03, 2021 03:34PM

  If this is true then our line just got a whole lot beefier

Ram_Ruler267May 03, 2021 02:32PM

  there are legit questions about the OL

zn318May 03, 2021 02:47PM

  positive spin- OL might be close to their ONLY 2022 need

LMU93384May 04, 2021 03:54AM

  Re: positive spin- OL might be close to their ONLY 2022 need

zn233May 04, 2021 05:36AM

  One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

PHDram461May 04, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams341May 04, 2021 07:25AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn188May 04, 2021 07:48AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams238May 04, 2021 08:04AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn278May 04, 2021 09:26AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams204May 04, 2021 09:34AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

zn507May 04, 2021 09:45AM

  Re: One option may be Ryan Ramczyk

dzrams269May 04, 2021 09:54AM

  What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

promomasterj219May 04, 2021 10:30AM

  Re: What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

zn216May 04, 2021 11:36AM

  How much is the cap in 2022?

promomasterj219May 04, 2021 12:17PM

  what would the cap have to be in 2022 for them to be under?

zn200May 04, 2021 01:28PM

  And you don't get points for painting tge rams into a corner.

PHDram182May 04, 2021 02:33PM

  one at a time guys

zn178May 04, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: What exactly, is 'cap hell'?

dzrams684May 04, 2021 02:46PM

  lol ... so I repeat myself, again

zn251May 04, 2021 03:04PM

  Re: You should be more clear...

dzrams554May 04, 2021 03:18PM

  Re: You should be more clear...

zn282May 04, 2021 03:36PM

  Rams have shown a clear pattern of developing their own linemen and giving them a chance to play.

Ram_Ruler190May 04, 2021 03:22PM

  and so who is the LOT they're developing

zn306May 04, 2021 03:32PM

  My opinion is that it's noteboom

Ram_Ruler191May 04, 2021 03:36PM

  Re: My opinion is that it's noteboom

zn195May 04, 2021 03:44PM

  No on Notebloom

Stafford9197May 04, 2021 04:31PM

  Evans kind of fits the classic prototypical guard prospect.

Ram_Ruler197May 04, 2021 05:03PM

  Re: No on Notebloom

zn305May 04, 2021 05:04PM

  Re: No on Notebloom

Stafford9331May 04, 2021 08:26PM

  where does the $13m number come from?

promomasterj254May 05, 2021 10:16AM

  Re: where does the $13m number come from?

dzrams215May 05, 2021 01:21PM

  Wouldn't surprise me....

JamesJM193May 05, 2021 01:29PM

  You can add another 4

PHDram315May 05, 2021 02:26PM

  Re: You can add another 4

dzrams199May 05, 2021 02:49PM

  Just because Rams don't reveal their plan doesn't mean there isn't one

RockRam213May 04, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: Just because Rams don't reveal their plan doesn't mean there isn't one

zn204May 04, 2021 01:38PM

  That's not what I said.

RockRam248May 04, 2021 02:33PM

  Re: That's not what I said.

zn253May 04, 2021 03:21PM

  Let me know what team

PHDram206May 04, 2021 02:52PM

  Re: Let me know what team

zn198May 04, 2021 03:43PM

  Drafting is a plan, but not a certainty

promomasterj262May 05, 2021 10:10AM

  all one big hairy straw man

zn221May 05, 2021 10:28AM

  Funny, you seem to know what there options are

promomasterj313May 05, 2021 11:35AM

  funny who doesn;t know what their options are

zn178May 05, 2021 11:41AM

  you can add trade into the mix

PHDram195May 05, 2021 11:57AM

  Re: you can add trade into the mix

zn374May 05, 2021 12:18PM

  Look at the composition of our O-line in 2018

promomasterj258May 03, 2021 03:13PM

  As much as an importance it is for him to step in....

roman18573May 04, 2021 04:05AM