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Re: no I think that's a convenient fiction

February 23, 2021 06:36PM
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I’m referring to the ‘17 thru mid-‘18 Goff as opposed to the mid-‘18 thru ‘20 Goff.

It’s as if they were two different QB’s, really. It becomes a context thing, right?

Therefore, criticism of Goff’s recent processing speed, reading of D’s, willingness to throw deep, whispers of game prep shortcomings, etc seems entirely justified, if you ask me. And why McVay made the decision to move on to Stafford despite the high cost that entailed.

I’ve been at peace with the Stafford decision after thinking about it in the first 5 minutes.

Again it's simple. Goff was inconsistent and had 4 bad games. This led to theories like yours which I think oversimplify everything. A lot gets put on the qb that isn't the qb.

Plus the premise is that a qb is supposed to be there and not be inconsistent in year 5.

Here's Stafford in year 5. Counting a bad game in 2013 as any with a qb rating under 70, he had 4 bad games. Those 4 bad games including 9 INTs (with 4 in one game). He was ranked 30th in completion percentage, 19th in qb rating, 25th in INT%, and 16th in TD%.

Why did Holmes in Detroit turn down a # 8 pick for a qb with bad processing speed, "rumors" (lol) of game prep issues, and so on?

Could it be he knew those things were hyperbole?

Personally I don;t care if the trade is "justified." Stafford is a good qb and this is not the first time the Rams moved on from a qb since I started following them. I look forward to seeing Stafford play as a Ram.

But also--on the stories about Goff we're getting from people who feel the need to justify the trade? They look to me like hyperbole.

Especially this strange idea that what he was in year 5 is what he will always be. That wasn't true of Stafford. If Stafford were a Ram in 2013 and played the way he did that year. you would have argued that he was not worth keeping.

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yup....

Go back and compare Goff vs Stafford first five years.....I posted them a couple weeks ago on here, Goff has better numbers on just about every stat and metric and almost 20 less INT's

People that want to write Goff after basically 4 years need to go back and look at some of game logs and first five year stats of Manning, Brees, Brady, Stafford, etc



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2021 07:04PM by Rampage2K-.
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  Peter Schrager: Sean McVay ‘giddy’ over Rams’ new QB Stafford...

Rams431235February 22, 2021 03:32PM

  Re: Peter Schrager: Sean McVay ‘giddy’ over Rams’ new QB Stafford...

zn497February 22, 2021 04:46PM

  I still don't understand why......

NewMexicoRam402February 22, 2021 05:04PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn345February 22, 2021 05:12PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

BerendsenRam268February 22, 2021 06:00PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

headslapper210February 23, 2021 09:53AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn199February 23, 2021 10:01AM

  Amen

Stafford9257February 22, 2021 07:00PM

  Re: Amen

zn259February 22, 2021 07:15PM

  team suicide?

Stafford9200February 24, 2021 04:14AM

  Re: team suicide?

zn282February 24, 2021 04:35AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

Rams Junkie283February 22, 2021 07:53PM

  Because they thought Goff was still developing

Ram_Ruler265February 23, 2021 03:14AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

Ramboni363February 23, 2021 06:39AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn184February 23, 2021 07:22AM

  There is no reason for it, really

JimYoungblood53208February 23, 2021 10:10AM

  Why would he not be happy?

PHDram457February 22, 2021 08:30PM

  Re: Why would he not be happy?

zn268February 22, 2021 08:38PM

  It was a joke?

PHDram345February 22, 2021 08:45PM

  Heres what it says to me...

max681February 23, 2021 06:11AM

  Re: nailed it (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram210February 23, 2021 06:42AM

  agree

OzRam234February 23, 2021 06:51AM

  Re: agree

zn321February 23, 2021 07:03AM

  Why do you think they made the trade?

stlramz315February 23, 2021 08:44AM

  Re: Why do you think they made the trade?

zn350February 23, 2021 09:35AM

  indict him as an offensive coach

PHDram190February 23, 2021 04:31PM

  When assessing Goff we must remember that there are actually two of them...

Rams43269February 23, 2021 07:56AM

  Re: When assessing Goff we must remember that there are actually two of them...

dzrams442February 23, 2021 08:06AM

  no I think that's a convenient fiction

zn298February 23, 2021 08:12AM

  Re: no I think that's a convenient fiction

Rampage2K-228February 23, 2021 06:36PM

  Why are there two of them?

max392February 23, 2021 09:27AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rams43228February 23, 2021 09:38AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

max345February 23, 2021 11:03AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rams43240February 23, 2021 11:23AM

  the Rams FO liked Goff

PHDram243February 23, 2021 04:35PM

  Re: the Rams FO liked Goff

max432February 23, 2021 05:29PM

  Re: the Rams FO liked Goff

PHDram565February 23, 2021 05:30PM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rampage2K-238February 23, 2021 06:43PM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

max221February 24, 2021 04:57AM

  Re: Which 10 teams?

dzrams227February 24, 2021 09:31AM