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February 23, 2021 07:03AM
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OzRam
Goff has more than enough arm talent, just not the processing speed or understanding of the concepts is my guess....... unless everything was going just as planned!

This is simply over-stated. They don't win the championship game in New Orleans, for example, if he could only play when everything went as planned.

And this whole processing speed stuff? He was doing fine with that in 2017 and 2018. 2019 he held his own in a bad situation where the OL was (1) first a mess, and then (2) less of a mess but still inconsistent in the final 7 games. For example the defense lost the 2nd SF game that year.

2020? They beat Tampa in Tampa on a day when they could not run the ball and had to throw 51 times. Is that an example of everything going right?

Here's what I see and it's several things at once.

* Goff was inconsistent in 2020 but the idea that he was Wentz level bad is just hyperbole. In fact Stafford also struggled in his 5th year (look it up). 5th year qbs are not always there yet.

* Holmes took Goff over a Carolina #8 pick, and Holmes was in on drafting Goff and was with the Rams the entire 5 years Goff was the qb. So the scout that helped draft him wanted him.

* McVay may believe he needs that great veteran qb to win, yet I notice that Shanahan beat HIM twice with nothing at qb. How much is Stafford a way out of the fact that while some guys can coach qbs to play well (like Shanahan or Greg Olson), maybe McVay has not yet developed that knack? (Still too young?)

* YET Stafford is a savvy, talented veteran and I look forward to seeing him play as a Ram. I have no complaints about them acquiring Stafford. I just don't buy the narrative some do buy into when they justify the trade.

And for the record Shrager, the reporter quoted above who starts all this, has ALSO said that the Goff trade has the potential to blow up in McVay's face. So none of this is as simple as some want it to be.

I can at least rest content with the fact that Stafford is a good get and I Iook forward to seeing him play. That's whether or not it was an act of genius to trade for him or the act of an impatient perfectionist trying to out run his own offensive coaching issues. Stafford is still a good get and I still look forward to seeing him play.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2021 07:11AM by zn.
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  Peter Schrager: Sean McVay ‘giddy’ over Rams’ new QB Stafford...

Rams43670February 22, 2021 03:32PM

  Re: Peter Schrager: Sean McVay ‘giddy’ over Rams’ new QB Stafford...

zn190February 22, 2021 04:46PM

  I still don't understand why......

NewMexicoRam196February 22, 2021 05:04PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn163February 22, 2021 05:12PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

BerendsenRam104February 22, 2021 06:00PM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

headslapper40February 23, 2021 09:53AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn33February 23, 2021 10:01AM

  Amen

Stafford989February 22, 2021 07:00PM

  Re: Amen

zn89February 22, 2021 07:15PM

  team suicide?

Stafford933February 24, 2021 04:14AM

  Re: team suicide?

zn23February 24, 2021 04:35AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

Rams Junkie60February 22, 2021 07:53PM

  Because they thought Goff was still developing

Ram_Ruler51February 23, 2021 03:14AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

Ramboni36February 23, 2021 06:39AM

  Re: I still don't understand why......

zn26February 23, 2021 07:22AM

  There is no reason for it, really

JimYoungblood5331February 23, 2021 10:10AM

  Why would he not be happy?

PHDram82February 22, 2021 08:30PM

  Re: Why would he not be happy?

zn80February 22, 2021 08:38PM

  It was a joke?

PHDram67February 22, 2021 08:45PM

  Heres what it says to me...

max180February 23, 2021 06:11AM

  Re: nailed it (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram25February 23, 2021 06:42AM

  agree

OzRam60February 23, 2021 06:51AM

  Re: agree

zn68February 23, 2021 07:03AM

  Why do you think they made the trade?

stlramz52February 23, 2021 08:44AM

  Re: Why do you think they made the trade?

zn45February 23, 2021 09:35AM

  indict him as an offensive coach

PHDram25February 23, 2021 04:31PM

  When assessing Goff we must remember that there are actually two of them...

Rams4363February 23, 2021 07:56AM

  Re: When assessing Goff we must remember that there are actually two of them...

dzrams43February 23, 2021 08:06AM

  no I think that's a convenient fiction

zn40February 23, 2021 08:12AM

  Re: no I think that's a convenient fiction

Rampage2K-35February 23, 2021 06:36PM

  Why are there two of them?

max58February 23, 2021 09:27AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rams4337February 23, 2021 09:38AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

max36February 23, 2021 11:03AM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rams4329February 23, 2021 11:23AM

  the Rams FO liked Goff

PHDram38February 23, 2021 04:35PM

  Re: the Rams FO liked Goff

max35February 23, 2021 05:29PM

  Re: the Rams FO liked Goff

PHDram28February 23, 2021 05:30PM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

Rampage2K-44February 23, 2021 06:43PM

  Re: Why are there two of them?

max28February 24, 2021 04:57AM

  Re: Which 10 teams?

dzrams26February 24, 2021 09:31AM