September 20, 2020 06:40AM
"Kupp benefited from Cooks and what he specifically was called to do in the offense" I agree 100%. I'm just saying that perhaps other players (like Higbee) benefit from Kupp's presence in ways that won't show up in Kupp's stats. And yes, it's easy to look at the stats and see that Kupp's numbers are down. But the Rams passing game is not down in any statistically significant measure (287 yards a game first 8 games last year, 275 in the final 8, 275 against the Cowboys), which means that while Kupp's role has diminished other players have seen a boost in their production.

"And I don't know about teams trying to take Kupp out specifically... " I haven't done my own research on this, but both Alyo and dzrams say so. And it does offer an explanation for Kupp's drop in production aligning with an uptick for other players.

"... but I would argue that without the deep threat in the Rams offense ... " I pointed out a couple plays in this post where Everett and Kupp went deep and took two defenders with them. How would those plays have been better if Cooks had gone deep instead? [ramsrule.com]

"Hes not on the field in 2TE sets" RFS69 reported that against the Cowboys the Rams ran 11 personnel 50 times, 12 personnel 20 times, and 13 personnel 3 times. [ramsrule.com] Kupp was on the field for 62 plays, meaning he was out there for at least a dozen times in 12 or 13 personnel. Woods had 61 snaps (one less than Kupp), Reynolds & Jefferson 37 & 33. Based on a 1 game sample I'd say Kupp and Woods are WR1 & WR2 with the other two guys splitting WR3. [subscribers.footballguys.com]

"One thing I definitely think is that even if Kupp sees more attention it would seem to me he should be winning way more often even with the extra attention" I can see that. But if it's easier to toss the rock to someone else what point would Goff/McVay be trying to prove by attempting a more difficult throw?

"4 catches and 46 yards per in his last 9 games is not expected. Let's see if he breaks out today." My outlook is different: let's see what the defense is giving us and then let's exploit that to the max.



AlbaNY_Ram



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  Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production?

Speed_Kills961September 18, 2020 07:01PM

  concerns about Kupp's production?

leafnose507September 18, 2020 07:16PM

  sample size

Speed_Kills229September 18, 2020 07:30PM

  Re: Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production?

Rams43223September 18, 2020 07:20PM

  Re: Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production?

Speed_Kills486September 18, 2020 07:33PM

  I have a different take....

JamesJM260September 18, 2020 07:36PM

  Re: something has changed

Speed_Kills234September 18, 2020 07:41PM

  Re: something has changed

Rams43224September 18, 2020 08:18PM

  Re: something has changed

Speed_Kills164September 18, 2020 08:38PM

  Re: something has changed

Rams43321September 18, 2020 10:06PM

  Re: something has changed

stlramz189September 19, 2020 04:18AM

  Re: by implication speed

hammer175September 19, 2020 04:21AM

  Re: hey hammer

Speed_Kills459September 19, 2020 05:37AM

  Re: we can disagree 43 that’s fine

Speed_Kills167September 19, 2020 05:26AM

  Re: we can disagree 43 that’s fine

Rams43158September 19, 2020 06:23AM

  Re: we can disagree 43 that’s fine

Speed_Kills218September 19, 2020 08:04AM

  love you both

ferragamo79166September 19, 2020 05:45PM

  IMO the Woods Kupp combo is elite in the NFL

RockRam200September 19, 2020 04:28AM

  Re: IMO the Woods Kupp combo is elite in the NFL...Agree Rock!

oldschoolramfan280September 19, 2020 05:51AM

  Kupp/Woods is kinda Holt/Bruce

Ramsfsninmd301September 19, 2020 08:10AM

  slight disagreement

Speed_Kills298September 19, 2020 08:15AM

  Re: slight disagreement

Ramsfsninmd169September 19, 2020 08:20AM

  I think both are better than you guys think they are...

JamesJM220September 19, 2020 08:23AM

  ahh ok gotcha now nm

Speed_Kills279September 19, 2020 08:34AM

  one thing that troubles me about McVay's passing game...

JamesJM177September 19, 2020 08:16AM

  James say more

Speed_Kills162September 19, 2020 08:24AM

  Lemme gather my thoughts, Speed... you're close...

JamesJM289September 19, 2020 08:33AM

  ha!!

Speed_Kills190September 19, 2020 08:38AM

  Re: James say more

sfbayram286September 20, 2020 07:54AM

  Re: McVay is very wise. one thing that troubles me about McVay's passing game...

sfbayram214September 20, 2020 07:53AM

  Kupp is a great WR/TE imo.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus288September 19, 2020 05:18AM

  Re: Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production?

reggae167September 19, 2020 11:53AM

  Nope.

alyoshamucci324September 19, 2020 04:41PM

  Re: Nope.

Speed_Kills510September 19, 2020 05:09PM

  Re: Nope.

zn279September 19, 2020 05:20PM

  Re: Nope.

dzrams199September 19, 2020 05:24PM

  Re: Nope.

AlbaNY_Ram286September 20, 2020 05:13AM

  Re: well again

Speed_Kills166September 20, 2020 05:47AM

  Re: well again

AlbaNY_Ram454September 20, 2020 06:40AM

  Good points

Suh-weet!136September 20, 2020 03:47PM

  Matthew Barry is . .

stlramz220September 20, 2020 07:47AM

  well he’s probably happier today

Speed_Kills176September 20, 2020 12:39PM

  Re: my concern increased

hammer205September 20, 2020 01:13PM

  Re: Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production? NO

idaram259September 20, 2020 11:31AM

  Re: Hey guys - Any concerns about Kupp's production?

Classicalwit178September 20, 2020 02:04PM

  I don't have a big issue with him on punt returns

Speed_Kills142September 20, 2020 04:31PM

  Kupp had a 100 yards rushing and receiving combined today nm

Rams Junkie323September 20, 2020 03:19PM