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Stats Eye Test and Team Success

July 16, 2020 03:35AM
For me it is a combination of Stats Eye Test and Team Success based ON CONTEXT OF TEAM AND COACHING AROUND HIM

For example, lets compare Rodgers to Brady

Rodgers 13 straight seasons of QB Rating of 90 or above
Rodgers 8 seasons of QB Rating of 100
Rodgers Career QB rating of 102

Eye Ball Test

He has great arm, accurate, and elusive in the pocket - He is one of the most athletic QBs in NFL history with the combination of his ability to throw the ball and move as well.


Winning

He won a superbowl and has been to the playoffs many times with a subpar coach. He went 13-3 last year with a team that almost like 60 percent of his passes were thrown to undrafted players. That was a bad offensive team that he carried to a 13-3 record.


Brady

7 times (Brady) vs 0 times (Rodgers), Brady has been below a 90% passing rating

He has been over 100 rating 6 times.

but while Rodgers was 13 for 13 over 90% he is only 12 for 19.


Eye Ball Test

He throws the ball accurate and has good pocket sense, but his arm is just good not great and he isn't very agile. He can make adjustments in the pocket.


Winning

He kills Rodgers with superbowls with 6-1, but most of that is the coaching.. Big difference there and most good QBs would have a handful of Superbowls in that situation. In fact, the team started 3-0 the year Brady was suspended with a backup QB and only lost the 4th one because it was a 3rd stringer. The other year he was hurt the team was 10-6 with some guy that couldn't play with any other team in the league effectively. When you evaluate that success without Brady, you see how great of a situation he was always in.

You have to understand the context of the winning when making comparisons and Rodgers stats and the eye ball test is off the charts that more than compensates for the superbowl wins that are won by a team vs an individual.

Jerry Rice

[www.pro-football-reference.com]

Nobody is even close to Jerry Rice in total yards all time. He is also all time touchdown leader and nobody close there

Note, Issac Bruce at #5, very close to #3 is an embarrassment how much Bruce was disrespected. He was #2 at the time of his retirement.

In Rice's situation, Montana and Young were both Hall of Famers. Most don't realize it but Young had the better career probably, but the Herd thinking likes the glory of the Montana story.. You can see the cause and effect here that Rice was the better of those 3 players (Rice, Montana, Young) He even was getting a 1000 yards later in his career with the Raiders.

Eye ball test

While he didn't have the greatest speed, he was smooth and ran great routes and was open and caught everything.

Winning

He was 3 superbowl wins and went to the conference finals 8 times.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2020 04:26AM by Rams_81.
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  Mahomes signs 10 year extension???

Rampage2K-855July 06, 2020 10:50AM

  He's gonna break the cba. Check this out

Ram_Ruler413July 06, 2020 11:04AM

  Re: He's gonna break the cba. Check this out

zn354July 06, 2020 12:00PM

  Re: He's gonna break the cba. Check this out

AlbaNY_Ram334July 06, 2020 12:45PM

  The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

The Professor261July 06, 2020 06:45PM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

AlbaNY_Ram230July 07, 2020 02:14AM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

zn206July 07, 2020 03:56AM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

AlbaNY_Ram183July 07, 2020 09:40AM

  and isn't $50m of the expenses, Goodells pay? nm

OzRam195July 07, 2020 12:09PM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

The Professor392July 07, 2020 03:03PM

  Re: Hey, Professor - you were right

AlbaNY_Ram276July 09, 2020 02:34AM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

zn284July 08, 2020 03:17AM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

Rampage2K-338July 08, 2020 03:27PM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

AlbaNY_Ram212July 08, 2020 03:58PM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

Rampage2K-270July 08, 2020 05:04PM

  Re: The cap will go down in 2021 by a lot!

AlbaNY_Ram184July 08, 2020 05:24PM

  what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rams_81223July 08, 2020 01:15PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

AlbaNY_Ram197July 08, 2020 01:24PM

  I believe that the lack of fans will spiral

Rams_81355July 08, 2020 02:01PM

  Re: I believe that the lack of fans will spiral

AlbaNY_Ram202July 08, 2020 02:27PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rampage2K-192July 08, 2020 03:14PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

zn214July 08, 2020 03:21PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rampage2K-230July 08, 2020 03:29PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

zn186July 08, 2020 04:14PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rampage2K-176July 08, 2020 04:51PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

AlbaNY_Ram191July 08, 2020 05:22PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rampage2K-201July 08, 2020 05:37PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

AlbaNY_Ram273July 08, 2020 06:13PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

Rampage2K-193July 08, 2020 06:44PM

  Re: what will be interesting in society is when people start to feel loss

AlbaNY_Ram177July 09, 2020 02:28AM

  I still don't see it

zn198July 10, 2020 05:21AM

  Re: I still don't see it

zn207July 10, 2020 05:30AM

  Re: I still don't see it

AlbaNY_Ram187July 10, 2020 07:11AM

  okay

zn176July 10, 2020 07:37AM

  Good point.

Ram_Ruler288July 06, 2020 01:13PM

  Yesm but... 450 million? That is ridiculous

mexram204July 06, 2020 04:15PM

  Report: Patrick Mahomes extension not tied to percentage of cap

Ramsdude340July 06, 2020 01:22PM

  Re: 10 yrs up to 503 million

VANRAM310July 06, 2020 02:06PM

  Guess the pot was sweet enough not to need it.

Ram_Ruler309July 06, 2020 02:17PM

  They better pray he stays healthy........

Rampage2K-304July 06, 2020 02:26PM

  Re: They better pray he stays healthy........

AlbaNY_Ram361July 06, 2020 02:29PM

  Here’s how to think about it...

max600July 06, 2020 04:13PM

  yep he is amazing

ferragamo79206July 06, 2020 04:45PM

  Re: yep he is amazing

max294July 06, 2020 04:47PM

  Re: They better pray he stays healthy........

Rampage2K-214July 06, 2020 05:50PM

  Re: They better pray he stays healthy........

zn195July 07, 2020 05:41AM

  Mahomes will surpass Rodgers as greatest player ever

Rams_81277July 07, 2020 05:11AM

  I don't have Rodgers as greatest player ever

RantoulRam378July 07, 2020 05:42AM

  Re: Mahomes will surpass Rodgers as greatest player ever

Steve267July 07, 2020 05:49AM

  Re: Terrible list there 81

merlin213July 08, 2020 07:48AM

  I think these 3 stand out

Rams_81338July 08, 2020 01:11PM

  Re: Is your metric how their posteriors look in their pants?

merlin213July 14, 2020 12:16PM

  Stats Eye Test and Team Success

Rams_81215July 16, 2020 03:35AM

  Re: Mahomes will surpass Rodgers as greatest player ever- What about AD?

BumRap199July 13, 2020 02:19PM

  Re: Mahomes signs 10 year extension???

zn213July 08, 2020 03:19AM

  Mahomes will be the GOAT when done

den-the-coach274July 08, 2020 04:25AM

  Re: Mahomes will be the GOAT when done

zn294July 08, 2020 04:27AM

  Re: Mahomes will be the GOAT when done

Steve185July 08, 2020 06:25PM

  Now the Chiefs have a new challenge...

Rams43359July 08, 2020 06:30AM

  I think that's what makes Mahomes great

ferragamo79297July 08, 2020 07:31AM

  that was the beginning of the end for Luck being greedy

Rams_81199July 08, 2020 02:32PM

  it has been done before

zn235July 10, 2020 07:05AM

  Re: it has been done before

Rams43304July 10, 2020 08:56AM

  Re: it has been done before

zn211July 10, 2020 10:49AM

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Rams43174July 10, 2020 11:32AM

  Re: it has been done before

zn264July 10, 2020 11:45AM

  Re: it has been done before

Rams43215July 10, 2020 11:59AM

  Re: it has been done before

zn307July 10, 2020 12:54PM

  Re: Now the Chiefs have a new challenge...Mike Florio critical

BumRap249July 13, 2020 02:05PM