May 08, 2020 08:39PM
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Rampage2K-
I have a friend who is an ER doctor in Buffalo and here is what she said about the vaccines yesterday in a conversation

“The CDC had a meeting yesterday and said best case Scenario is maybe 14 months. But the fastest vaccine to ever make it to market has been 4 years. We don’t even know if you can develop long-term natural immunity to this virus. If you can’t develop natural immunity then you can’t have a vaccine. It doesn’t work that way. This is a brand new virus and they honestly just don’t know much about it at all. People holding out for a vaccine are nuts. So that was just yesterday. You have to develop one that shows promise then human trials and observation and then mass marketing. That doesn’t happen quickly.

Science isn’t fast. Like maybe Who knows maybe next year or two....Maybe never if it changes too quickly.

Herd immunity is really our only shot. So healthy young people need to get it. Ugh just new world“

There are specific reasons a vaccine would not work and we do not have any reason to believe covid-19 fits that description.

1. Some things you can't develop vaccines for because they are too many strains. With the cold for example it's nearly 200 different strains.

2. Some things you can't develop vaccines for because those virus are not affected by antibodies the way others are--that's true of HIV for example. As one medical guy puts it, "in HIV, the virus does everything in its power to hide the target, so we’re dealing with a well-adapted adversary that actively avoids neutralization." Antibodies don't matter, the HIV virus eludes them.

Neither thing is true of covid-19 that we know of. (And btw there are some vaccines that work against multiple strains...just not nearly 200, as with the cold. I've read about vaccines that can take out up to 23 strains...and no one is saying there are that many strains of covid-19.)

If on the other hand we find out that you can only develop temporary natural immunity from covid-19, then, the solution for that is just having annual shots.

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  11/29/2020 49ers v. Rams. There!!!

Ekern55707May 07, 2020 04:51PM

  doubt they will have fans in stadiums

ferragamo79251May 07, 2020 04:52PM

  Re: doubt they will have fans in stadiums

Ekern55241May 07, 2020 04:55PM

  Re: doubt they will have fans in stadiums

Rampage2K-219May 07, 2020 05:03PM

  Here in Maryland

Ram_Ruler260May 07, 2020 05:04PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

Ekern55230May 07, 2020 05:09PM

  Got tix to 2 games already

Ram_Ruler477May 07, 2020 05:10PM

  so that means its gonna work?

ferragamo79216May 07, 2020 06:16PM

  Re: so that means its gonna work?

waterfield199May 07, 2020 06:28PM

  Idk Man I'm just telling you what the article said

Ram_Ruler221May 07, 2020 06:59PM

  Re: Idk Man I'm just telling you what the article said

waterfield257May 08, 2020 12:40PM

  Re: Idk Man I'm just telling you what the article said

Ram_Ruler190May 08, 2020 12:51PM

  keep in mind if they develop a vaccine

ferragamo79279May 08, 2020 01:22PM

  Best of luck to you. Wishing you good health

Ram_Ruler195May 08, 2020 02:10PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

waterfield219May 07, 2020 06:28PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

Rampage2K-257May 07, 2020 06:59PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

AlbaNY_Ram196May 07, 2020 11:36PM

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chico n da rams194May 08, 2020 12:20PM

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waterfield182May 08, 2020 01:04PM

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waterfield190May 08, 2020 12:52PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

Rampage2K-199May 08, 2020 01:30PM

  According to the researchers at University of Maryland

Ram_Ruler200May 08, 2020 02:08PM

  Re: According to the researchers at University of Maryland

Rampage2K-194May 08, 2020 02:13PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

waterfield189May 08, 2020 02:11PM

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Rampage2K-190May 08, 2020 02:14PM

  Re: Here in Maryland

zn232May 08, 2020 08:30PM

  Re: Yup (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram172May 09, 2020 06:11AM

  Re: Here in Maryland

zn381May 08, 2020 08:39PM

  Good stuff. thx. nm

max164May 09, 2020 05:55AM

  you are not getting herd immunity if such a small percentage is infected

ferragamo79275May 08, 2020 01:24PM

  and that's IF we can develop natural immunity to covid-19

zn193May 08, 2020 03:10PM

  Re: and that's IF we can develop natural immunity to covid-19

waterfield189May 08, 2020 08:06PM

  Key points

PHDram161May 09, 2020 06:15AM

  Re: you are not getting herd immunity if such a small percentage is infected

AlbaNY_Ram209May 09, 2020 04:54AM

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Rams43176May 09, 2020 05:48AM

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AlbaNY_Ram166May 09, 2020 06:10AM

  Re: you are not getting herd immunity if such a small percentage is infected

Rams43146May 09, 2020 06:19AM

  Re: you are not getting herd immunity if such a small percentage is infected

zn194May 09, 2020 06:22AM

  Re: Thanks: I didn't know that! (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram192May 09, 2020 06:33AM

  Re: you are not getting herd immunity if such a small percentage is infected

Rams43214May 09, 2020 06:37AM

  For the sake of argument

PHDram278May 09, 2020 08:01AM

  I believe they were testing three strains

Ram_Ruler219May 07, 2020 07:01PM

  Re: doubt they will have fans in stadiums

Classicalwit192May 08, 2020 03:14PM

  doubt that

ferragamo79185May 09, 2020 07:04AM