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Re: Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

April 20, 2020 04:29AM
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They have RB's 1 and 2 decided. No need to draft early or even mid for a RB. You can't find serviceable to good RBs all over the draft. Besides, they'll be some out of work vets that'll work for close to minimum by the end of training camp.

Two things.

1. Are you familiar with the dismal League wide success rate of drafted RB’s in 4th round and below? ZN provided some eye opening stats on that. I highly recommend you find his post and read it. I virtually guarantee that it will make you rethink your position.

2. RB’s 1 and 2 are hardly decided. Hendo, at best, needs to win most of us over. Brown inspires zero confidence if he’s forced into a starting role. Lastly, Snead himself has virtually said that at least one RB is gonna be added this offseason.

In fairness, I thought Zn's numbers were measuring where "good" RBs are found in the draft. Rock said you could find RBs that were "serviceable to good". If they're looking for someone "serviceable" that will be a clear #2 to Henderson in a RB committee, then maybe the later rounds will suffice.

I think it comes down to, what type of quality are they looking for. If they want someone that is Henderson's equal or better, then yeah, it's going to have to be before the 5th. But we don't know that's what they're looking for.

I just measured hits, which I defined as active, productive backs. That's largely because that's what I think they want and also as it happens what I would like. I think they have to plan for a committee at RB type system. If nothing else there is no guy capable of carrying the load behind DH, so even if they make him the major focus at back, there's no one behind him if he misses games.

I don't know what the numbers would be on serviceable guys like Malcolm Brown.

I just know that if you want to rotate 2 starters, or have a starting caliber back behind your starter, the pickins after round 3 are slim.


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Right I get that. And I see why they need someone behind DH so no argument there.

The reason I broke it down into serviceable versus good is because there are some guys that weren't considered hits in your post that may satisfy the requirements of what the Rams are looking for. IIRC, Kenyon Drake comes to mind and another RB that you said was borderline.

I'm putting that quality of RB into the serviceable category. Putting it more succinctly, I'm not sure they want to rotate 2 starting caliber backs. Maybe DH and something a little less will be ok.

Well I am looking for 2 starters including DH, so one new guy. For lots of reasons already listed. It's possible btw that this year, there's enough running back depth to get that in the 4th round. Usually you don't want to let it go past the 3rd round.

I am not even sure that lower picks have good odds for finding a serviceable back. I will count that as a guy who has at least 500 yards in a recent season. Looking again at rounds 4-7 from 2015 to 2017--far enough back to judge--this is the percentage on guys who are at least serviceable.

There's Howard, Carson, Jones, maybe Ajayi, Mack, Williams (just short but we'll count him), Collins (Baltimore). So that's 7 of 55. That's still long odds (12.7%).

I include a link to the list in case someone wants to see if there's anyone else. [www.pro-football-reference.com]













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  So, what should we reasonably expect coming out of this draft?

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  Re: So, what should we reasonably expect coming out of this draft?

OzRam277April 18, 2020 09:32AM

  I think that you might be missing the larger point...

Rams43260April 18, 2020 10:14AM

  Re: I think that you might be missing the larger point...

OzRam194April 18, 2020 12:13PM

  Why would we trade down?

reggae339April 18, 2020 10:23AM

  Re: Why would we trade down?

Rams43234April 18, 2020 11:03AM

  Re: This is why

AlbaNY_Ram218April 18, 2020 02:26PM

  \I don't get it

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  Re: \I don't get it

AlbaNY_Ram179April 19, 2020 06:39AM

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Rams43167April 19, 2020 08:04AM

  Re: It's a typical football discussion 43......

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zn147April 19, 2020 08:50AM

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AlbaNY_Ram143April 19, 2020 09:01AM

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Ekern55141April 19, 2020 10:29AM

  big picture...

LMU93248April 18, 2020 12:46PM

  Drafts are such a crap shoot, I just hope for the best. nm

Ramgator189April 18, 2020 01:44PM

  Re: So, what should we reasonably expect coming out of this draft?

RockRam262April 19, 2020 04:49AM

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SoCalRAMatic192April 19, 2020 05:14AM

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RockRam202April 19, 2020 05:59AM

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Rams43207April 19, 2020 06:12AM

  Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

RockRam174April 19, 2020 10:19AM

  Re: Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

Rams43172April 19, 2020 10:44AM

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dzrams166April 19, 2020 10:53AM

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Rams43153April 19, 2020 10:57AM

  Re: Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

dzrams345April 19, 2020 11:09AM

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Rams43178April 19, 2020 11:12AM

  Re: Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

dzrams159April 19, 2020 11:19AM

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zn198April 19, 2020 11:01AM

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dzrams173April 19, 2020 11:17AM

  Re: Nope. No RB until 5th or later, or UFA

zn139April 20, 2020 04:29AM

  Yes: serviceable.

RockRam266April 19, 2020 11:37AM

  Re: 4 contributors....

spagsbacker233April 19, 2020 10:42AM

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Rams43164April 19, 2020 10:45AM

  I expect a lot of surprises everywhere ...

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  Re: I expect a lot of surprises everywhere ...

Ekern55155April 19, 2020 02:05PM

  Including Technical Glitches with the at home NFL draft (article)

Rams Junkie135April 20, 2020 10:09AM

  not much to add to this conversation, maybe a sentence or 2.

Deadpool239April 19, 2020 04:26PM

  Your draft related posts are pure gold, Dead...

Rams43149April 19, 2020 04:46PM

  NP brother

Deadpool289April 19, 2020 05:07PM

  Re: not much to add to this conversation, maybe a sentence or 2.

dzrams267April 19, 2020 05:14PM

  I was slow to the party on him because I thought he would be a FA

Deadpool183April 19, 2020 05:34PM

  Question for you...

Deadhead Ram152April 20, 2020 10:01AM

  Good question

Deadpool257April 20, 2020 04:04PM

  Like the reasoning

OzRam151April 20, 2020 10:17AM