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Re: Are analytics based on statistics?

February 01, 2020 07:14AM
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Algorithm is based on formula. Whether that is statistic measures or analysis measured. The popular NFL systems algorithm that we consume are no longer just stat driven. They are scenario and per play driven. Passer rating has all but been replaced by QBR as an example. PFF has created a quarter billion dollar company by feeding millennials their hunger for what they didn't see and that stats can't tell them.

My favorite new measure is win percentage. It helps determine a players motor and per play dominance.

I think QBR is a bogus stat (just IMO) and I can think of frequent and constant examples of PFF numbers being baffling precisely because they DON'T line up with what we see. To me PFF is ballpark--their exact grades and rankings are not relevant but generally they are right about whether someone is good, average, or mediocre (though so are a lot of other people too).

And win percentage is still subjective. In an objective world several different analysts could break down a win percentage differently, depending on what they count as a win. Though they might all be be ballpark generally the same, the exact numbers and ranks would vary.

One huge flaw PFF has when it comes to this is that they tend to isolate OL and analyze them as individual players. That's impossible. First no outside analysts know all the OL assignments on a given play, and more importantly, if an OL is struggling as a group, then the entire thing is out of sync and under those conditions it's not likely any one individual player can or will look good. Yet PFF has no way to analyze OL coherence and (for lack of a better term) in-sync-ness.

Heck in this one thread people are pointing out that most outsiders have no real conception of what MB's role even was. They complain about lack of big stats at a position that generally does not generate big stats (3/4 DE), and then there's win percentage, with the exact same flaws--no outsider knows the assignments and different objective observers might grade the "wins" differently.

So I don't think you're speaking for this whole generational evolution into Greater Truth. Like everyone you just have your preferences. We have not yet arrived at an era of Purely True Analysis and probably never will. As always it is ALL still open to discussion and debate.













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