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I think this is where you miss the boat on the completion % and why it's overrated, btw he is at 61.9 and Mahomes is at 65.2 a whopping 3.3% difference and people consider Mahomes the greatest thing since sliced bread.
This quote says it all about completion %
“THE DESIGN OF AN OFFENSE HAS GREAT IMPACT ON COMPLETION PERCENTAGE. IF WE’RE GOING TO, YOU CAN TAKE A YOUNG MAN AND ENCOURAGE HIM TO CHECK DOWN, SUDDENLY YOU LOOK UP AND HE’S COMPLETING 68 OR 70 PERCENT OF HIS PASSES. THAT’S WONDERFUL. BUT WHAT DO YOU SACRIFICE TO GET THAT DONE? WE DON’T HAVE A VERTICAL PASSING GAME SUDDENLY.”
“YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH COMPLETION PERCENTAGE.”
The Rams and Goff are hardly ever checking anything down ....and lets just say the line play has been anything but spectacular this year that puts more pressure on this offense
Do you win games? That's the bottom line and Goff has been one of the best in the NFL in that dept since 2017
Again, it doesn't say you disregard or ignore completion percentage.
And as someone pointed out earlier, Goff isn't attempting a lot of long, low percentage passes. In fact, he's attempting the fewest. So, compared to other QB's, his percentage is low(while other categories like TD's, TD%, YPA, etc. aren't elevated). Considering the system and coach and what other QB's have done it it, it's low. Considering recent competition, it's low. Considering his receiving corps compared to other teams, it's low. Considering that one of Goff's strengths is supposed to be accuracy, it's low.
The point is, I'm not looking at his completion % out of context. It's just low.
As far as context goes, are you really sure you want to compare Mahommes and Goff? If Goff had a 15 to 1 TD/INT ratio like Mahommes, maybe the completion % wouldn't be as much of an issue. That he did most of that without Hill and after losing Hunt coming off of an MVP, historic season compared to Goff who sank to the bottom of the league in most statistics makes the completion % issue seem rather insignificant.
You kinda prove my point, but fail to see it.... who cares if it's 62% or 65% and the Chiefs throw a lot of screens btw, also Mahomes has the pleasure of working with one of the best play designers in the history of the game....he'll he made a HS coach look good the other night who hasn't started a game in six years lol
The Rams may not be going deep as much as they used to, but he is hardly throwing screens and 7 yard curl routes either
You don't lead the league in yards and be a top ten fantasy producer by dinking and dunking
No, in Goff's case, he's leading the league in yards by attempting more passes than just about everyone else. His 7.5 YPA is good for 15th in the league so it's not like he's doing something special.
Context is everything and comparing Goff's completion percentage to Mahommes is ludicrous. In a game of inches, where a game can be decided by one or two plays, 4% isn't insignificant between just their respective completions %. But if you look at everything ELSE that they have done, there isn't any comparison.
Reid is certainly a top offensive mind in the NFL but are you suggesting that McVay is not? That Goff is working with some sort of disadvantage in that regard? Seriously?
No, when you pick a comp, you need to actually pick something comparable. Goff is sandwiched right between Darnold and Dalton when it comes to completion %. Overall, statistically, he and Dalton are actually very similar. Goff is a tad better but Dalton hasn't had AJ Green all year so I think that puts them both right about the same level statistically.
And that's the reality. In a much better situation, Goff has been producing at around the same level as Dalton has with a new HC, new system, no AJ Green and on a winless team. I think Goff deserves a fair amount of criticism for that. Look at Kirk Cousins. The media was ready to crucify him for underperforming and he's having a great year. He had his best statistical year LAST year after signing the big contract and now he's even better. But most people think he's a flop and not living up to what he should be doing.
Honestly look at his numbers and the general perception about him and then how Goff has compared to that the last couple of years. Goff should be getting roasted in the media and he's still on a free pass. The Rams are paying top dollar for Andy Dalton production. Don't you feel that warrants criticism?
