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Re: Careful with that rationale

September 03, 2018 02:36PM
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Unless you're ready to say that Bob Griese, Jim Plunkett and Eli Manning are "better" than Aaron Rodgers. Or Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien and Jeff Hostetler are just as good as him.

No not at all, but I'm talking about the Montana's and Brady's that weren't as talented as Rodgers, but are probably consider better then Rodgers due to winning multiple Super Bowls.

I understand football is the ultimate team sport and it's not all on the QB, but if you want to be considered the best, you need to win rings. There is more to being a great QB then fantasy stats.

Goff was the 5th rated QB at 23 years old leading his team to the playoffs and scoring in his first year in new system. Rodgers was handing out water at that age and state in his career.

I don't like blanket statements claiming "Goff will never be Rodgers"

Comes across like Goff will never achieve what Rodgers has achieved....

Goff is already years ahead of where Rodgers was in his career and will only get betterbeer cheer smiley
I'm not a fan of blanket statements either but Rodgers is superior in skill and ability at the QB position over most other QB's. Granted, rings do matter but no one is arguing that Terry Bradshaw was "better" than Dan Marino.

I'm glad the Rams have a capable young QB but there is no shame in saying that Goff will never be Dan Marino. Goff may(hopefully) experience more team success but I think it's fair to say that Rodgers is on that next tier with few others. Guys like Marino and Rodgers are special talents. Guys like Eli and Goff are very capable and can lead a team. Maybe Goff becomes a special talent with how he manages the great situation that he's in but I don't think he's got the special combination of talent and ability that Rodgers has.

Just sayin, don't sleep on Goff.... he put up better numbers and much better record in his first full year as a starter after three months learning a new system than Rodgers put up in his first year as starter after having three years on the bench learning the system.



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  Is the value of a "Franchise" QB overstated

reggae729September 01, 2018 06:51PM

  Re: Is the value of a "Franchise" QB overstated NO

BumRap225September 01, 2018 08:14PM

  Foles?

RamBill465September 01, 2018 08:26PM

  Re: Foles?

reggae216September 01, 2018 08:50PM

  Re: Foles?

moklerman252September 01, 2018 11:39PM

  Re: Foles?

zn194September 02, 2018 12:17AM

  Re: Foles?

moklerman156September 02, 2018 01:01AM

  Re: Foles?

zn152September 02, 2018 09:03PM

  Re: Foles?

zn244September 01, 2018 08:54PM

  LOL...great post!!!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus213September 02, 2018 12:34AM

  Most of Foles problems was Fisher

Rams_8185September 09, 2018 05:41AM

  not the least bit true I'm afraid

zn78September 09, 2018 05:52AM

  Re: Is the value of a "Franchise" QB overstated

David Deacon161September 02, 2018 02:32AM

  I think you all under value Cousins...

jemach240September 02, 2018 04:56AM

  You nailed it

NewMexicoRam101February 01, 2019 12:19PM

  In the NFL 10+ years ago Yes. In the NFL today...NO

chunkmeister144September 02, 2018 03:45AM

  To say this is an unabashed passing league is a bit overstated IMO...

jemach169September 02, 2018 06:14AM

  Re: To say this is an unabashed passing league is a bit overstated IMO...

zn153September 02, 2018 09:08AM

  I view the reasons for the stats differently

chunkmeister228September 02, 2018 09:32AM

  Re: I view the reasons for the stats differently

zn142September 02, 2018 10:18AM

  I'm going to go out on a limb...

jemach196September 02, 2018 04:54AM

  Re: I'm going to go out on a limb...

Rampage2K-169September 02, 2018 08:45AM

  I can't even go there...

jemach113September 02, 2018 01:43PM

  Re: I can't even go there...

Rampage2K-90September 02, 2018 01:45PM

  Hey...when Goff carries this team...

jemach78September 02, 2018 01:51PM

  Re: Hey...when Goff carries this team...

Rampage2K-90September 02, 2018 01:55PM

  The problem is.....

NewMexicoRam86September 02, 2018 02:35PM

  No one is saying Goff can't do the job...

jemach85September 03, 2018 01:53AM

  Re: No one is saying Goff can't do the job...

Rampage2K-89September 03, 2018 10:13AM

  Careful with that rationale

moklerman82September 03, 2018 11:25AM

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Rampage2K-87September 03, 2018 11:55AM

  Re: Careful with that rationale

moklerman78September 03, 2018 02:28PM

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Rampage2K-83September 03, 2018 02:36PM

  Re: Careful with that rationale

moklerman196September 03, 2018 05:07PM

  Goff will never be as old as Rodgers

reggae94September 03, 2018 05:50PM

  I don't know....

JamesJM86September 04, 2018 04:58AM

  Re: Alright James

RamsFanSinceLA71September 05, 2018 07:58AM

  I think your wrong James

waterfield78September 05, 2018 11:35AM

  Goff was born after Rogers

waterfield68September 05, 2018 11:19AM

  Only 7 "so-so" QB's have won Super Bowls

NewMexicoRam160September 02, 2018 06:33AM

  Name the 7...

jemach175September 02, 2018 06:42AM

  Re: Name the 7...

NewMexicoRam511September 02, 2018 12:28PM

  I have an argument for 11...

jemach162September 02, 2018 01:48PM

  Last 15 years, only 2 SB winning QBs have no shot at HOF

max189September 03, 2018 12:23PM

  Re: Name the 7...

stlramz130September 02, 2018 09:18PM

  No

NewMexicoRam101September 03, 2018 09:30AM

  I now want to see the Rams play the Pats in the SB...

RAMbler141September 05, 2018 08:24AM

  put Brady with Fisher and he becomes a so so quarterback

Rams_81149September 03, 2018 08:18AM

  Re: put Brady with Fisher and he becomes a so so quarterback

Steve90September 06, 2018 05:19AM

  You are right so so was too strong

Rams_8173September 09, 2018 05:35AM

  Re: Is the value of a "Franchise" QB overstated

SoCalRAMatic121September 05, 2018 10:58AM

  You mean Bill Belicheck

Rams_8180September 09, 2018 05:38AM

  I go it wrong Matt Cassell

Rams_8173September 10, 2018 01:17AM

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  Re: Is the value of a "Franchise" QB overstated

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