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Re: This is an assumption...and probably not a correct one

August 22, 2018 01:55PM
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dzrams
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The writer has a point, not to mention 10 years of experience in negotiating contracts with player/agents.

The offer is reportedly record setting for a D player. The exact numbers are unknown, but regardless of one’s agenda that is a market setter.

So, FA or under contract, how can AD or his agents be insulted by such a beginning negotiating position?

Bottom line is that there is still a difference between what Rams and AD see as his worth.

It’s that simple.

If AD and his agent are insulted by an offer, it's likely not a "beginning negotiating position." The beginning negotiating position would have been a year plus ago.

As far as we know, the offer on the table could be the Rams ending negotiating position.

Besides this has been discussed endlessly. I remember you (dz) making the point that 19.01 M would be more than Von Miller and therefore the highest contract y et for a defender, but still not be appropriate or adequate to what the "best defender"category is worth in 2018 .

That and the "insulted" rumor came in a tweet from Geller that both Snead and Demoff said was flat incorrect about the numbers. So there's no actual evidence anyone said anything about "insulted." Just one presumed source out of many suggested the word and no one since him echoes it.

That is, this is old news. It's an old debate point. Long before today it was pointed out that what AD is worth in 2018 is going to have to be more than what VM got in 2016. Just adding a million to VM's 2016 numbers doesn't accomplish that.

I will even get technical. Let's pretend the number is 20 M. That's 1 M more than VM's 2016 numbers. If it is 20 M, that's a 5% increase in 3 years. If you look at all other positions, NONE OF THEM go up just 5% in 3 years. It's more like (conservative estimate, at the low end) 10% A YEAR.

This has all been said before.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2018 01:56PM by zn.
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  Examining the Cases of the Four NFL Players Who Still Haven't Reported

RamBill497August 22, 2018 05:07AM

  Re: Examining the Cases of the Four NFL Players Who Still Haven't Reported

AlbaNY_Ram224August 22, 2018 05:14AM

  I dunno

zn375August 22, 2018 05:22AM

  Re: I dunno

Rams43282August 22, 2018 06:15AM

  Re: I dunno

Rampage2K-146August 22, 2018 09:08AM

  Re: This is an assumption...and probably not a correct one

dzrams105August 22, 2018 11:38AM

  Re: This is an assumption...and probably not a correct one

Rams4395August 22, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: This is an assumption...and probably not a correct one

zn72August 22, 2018 01:55PM

  Not much respect for a guy who did this for decades.

RockRam154August 22, 2018 07:16AM

  Re: Not much respect for a guy who did this for decades.

waterfield151August 22, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: Not much respect for a guy who did this for decades.

Rams43143August 22, 2018 07:50AM

  Re: Not much respect for a guy who did this for decades.

David Deacon93August 22, 2018 09:54AM

  lots of assumptions

zn116August 22, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: lots of assumptions

Rams43166August 22, 2018 11:28AM

  has nothing to do with "respect" or "disrespect," that article has mistakes in it

zn98August 22, 2018 04:09PM

  this is not about the "person"

zn132August 22, 2018 09:52AM

  Re: this is not about the "person"

Rams43149August 22, 2018 11:22AM

  Re: this is not about the "person"

snowman184August 22, 2018 11:43AM

  yes

zn124August 22, 2018 11:58AM

  another error

zn80August 22, 2018 01:45PM

  And perhaps that is exactly the problem.

RockRam116August 22, 2018 12:16PM

  Re: this is not about the "person"

Rampage2K-97August 22, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: A couple of counter points on your points...

dzrams99August 22, 2018 05:30PM

  actually the Rams & reporters in general say AD's deal is for a "best defender" (DT doesn't come up)

zn80August 22, 2018 06:03PM