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July 05, 2018 01:35AM
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The Rams could do that , but according to VB and other insiders, that is NOT the case...they're willing to make him the highest paid defender in the NFL,

You can't say that with any real certainty.

First off there are no "insiders." You have some league people and some reporters repeating rumors.

Second off, unless you know the figures, you cannot with any actual validity claim that any offer the Rams have out there is good enough.

For one thing "highest paid defender" could mean 19.5 M, which would make him the highest paid, but, his market value is above that.

For another thing, in spite of the speculation from a few reporters, Demoff does NOT say he will be the highest paid defender. He says that he would be AMONG the highest paid defenders. That would average around 18 M or even less. That's even further away from his market value, which in 2018 is north of 20 M.

IMO we have to factor in what Demoff said. We're not really in the discussion unless we account for it. We also have to stop acting like VB and the handful or reporters you like on this said anything real. Without numbers we have no idea one way or another if the Rams offer is good enough. (Along with the fact that Demoff threw water on the claim that he would be the "highest." )

If we dont know the numbers then we don't really know anything.


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He said that because he is very smart about talking publicly about this... he could have said they are offering to make him the highest paid defender, but that would be akin to taking the negotiation public..he’s being political and showing respect, as he should be.

Take what Demoff says with a grain of salt.



I don’t think VB would say things like that publicly if he didn’t think they were true.


What is the market for DT’s??? You can’t just make up markets ... it is what it is.

Ask Leveon Bell how his contract negotiations are going....

Btw, happy 4th of July!

Sorry I just don't buy any of that. For one thing it's based on the assumption, which makes no sense to me, that Demoff would think he was accomplishing something by publicly lying about their intentions.

VB didn't say anything. He qualified all of it, and put it in terms of speculation. It's you who turned it into hard truths, not him. Making something out of VB's comments he did not say is not honoring or respecting his "truthfulness," it's misreading him.

It all amounts to this and this is inescapable, no matter how you want to construe these things to meet your own ideas.

Unless we know figures we do not know what;s really happening.

You can believe what you want. But that remains the case. Unless we know figures we do not know what;s really happening.

I don't want to keep repeating that over and over but until we get info, that is where I stand. So I figure we're done...each of us knows what the other thinks.

Fair enough?

Take your own advise..... until the actual offer is made public.

Read VB's quote....it's pretty clear that he believes the multiple reports.

I’ve been told by multiple people in the NFL if this was just about Aaron Donald being the highest-paid defensive player in the history of the NFL, the deal would have already gotten done. Why? Because the Rams look like they are ready to do that. It’s probably going to be $20 million plus that they end up paying him. But, what I have been told is that doesn’t appear to be all he’s looking for. He wants to not only be the highest-paid defensive player of all-time, but it looks like in talking with some people, he wants to get paid like a quarterback. A high-level quarterback.”

This has made things more complicated for the Rams, who are already willing to meet him to the point of making him the highest-paid defensive player in the league. This is something that manager Les Snead already indicated would be the case earlier this offseason.

Aaron Donald, Rams
However, what has likely thrown this new wrinkle into the fold has been the lucrative contracts given to a few quarterbacks this summer. The most recent being the five-year, $150 million deal with $100 million guaranteed that the Atlanta Falcons agreed to with Pro Bowl quarterback Matt Ryan.

This has pushed the asking price higher to the point that it is simply out of the Rams’ best interests to get him under that financial number, regardless of his immense talent.

The two sides may be a bit apart at this point, but these next few weeks ahead of training camp could allow them to get on the same page to keep Donald in Los Angels for the long haul.


I tend to believe this report rather then just try to call it blasphemy because it doesn't fit your agenda.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2018 01:39AM by Rampage2K-.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rampage2K-987July 02, 2018 06:16PM

  Yep. Agree with Polian the whole way

RockRam294July 03, 2018 02:15AM

  Re: Not quite...

dzrams299July 03, 2018 09:03AM

  Re: Not quite...

zn827July 03, 2018 09:19AM

  I would seriously consider sitting out

Atlantic Ram335July 04, 2018 08:03AM

  I agree with a lot of that on Donald... but on Bosa...

zn208July 04, 2018 09:47AM

  Thanks for the info on Bosa

Atlantic Ram110July 04, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

Rampage2K-162July 04, 2018 10:13AM

  no

zn159July 04, 2018 06:12PM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-119July 04, 2018 07:52PM

  Re: no

zn113July 05, 2018 12:36AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-110July 05, 2018 01:35AM

  Re: no

zn108July 05, 2018 01:45AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-250July 05, 2018 01:54AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

zn188July 04, 2018 11:11AM

  Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

RockRam220July 03, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

dzrams271July 03, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

bigjimram21152July 04, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: But that amount is still on the Rams salary cap books (nm)

dzrams123July 04, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Ramsdude274July 03, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

dzrams169July 03, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Rampage2K-542July 03, 2018 10:55AM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

dzrams252July 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: As expected...missed the point

Rampage2K-247July 03, 2018 11:12AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams211July 03, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-532July 03, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams199July 03, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-313July 03, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

dzrams160July 03, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

Rampage2K-105July 03, 2018 03:32PM

  I don't think 20+ M resets the market

zn179July 03, 2018 04:17PM

  Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rams43224July 04, 2018 06:24AM

  one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess... "DITTO"

Anonymous User230July 04, 2018 06:42AM

  LOL "fake knives"

Rampage2K-186July 04, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams107July 04, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rampage2K-315July 04, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

dzrams112July 04, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

Rampage2K-115July 04, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

CeeZar146July 04, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams246July 04, 2018 11:37AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

zn163July 03, 2018 12:09PM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

bigjimram21117July 04, 2018 01:41PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

waterfield134July 04, 2018 12:41PM

  I'll answer the tag and he sits question.

RockRam272July 03, 2018 11:08AM

  Re: An Answer! Thank you....one problem...

dzrams233July 03, 2018 11:19AM

  "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

RockRam352July 03, 2018 11:24AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

zn287July 03, 2018 11:49AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

Ramsdude105July 03, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: here is your answer..."nothing."

spagsbacker209July 03, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: Great...

dzrams146July 03, 2018 02:43PM

  Donald can become a huge disruption...

jemach118July 03, 2018 10:41AM

  Re: Donald can become a huge disruption...

Rampage2K-115July 03, 2018 10:49AM

  He knows no more than you or I...

jemach108July 03, 2018 10:56AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

dzrams107July 03, 2018 11:07AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

Ramsdude115July 03, 2018 01:48PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

RockRam109July 03, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

zn185July 03, 2018 11:58AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

Ramsdude107July 03, 2018 01:54PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing.......

Anonymous User131July 03, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rams43196July 03, 2018 06:10AM

  agent mom

wv ram158July 03, 2018 08:11AM

  Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rampage2K-261July 03, 2018 09:22AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude168July 03, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

waterfield154July 04, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rams43199July 04, 2018 06:37AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude152July 04, 2018 07:29AM

  The Rams won't get past round 1 without Donald...

jemach326July 03, 2018 10:43AM

  Re: I agree...

dzrams199July 03, 2018 11:40AM

  My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

RFL211July 04, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn181July 04, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rampage2K-290July 04, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

AlbaNY_Ram189July 04, 2018 12:14PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn162July 04, 2018 02:31PM

  I am with you on this all the way (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram98July 04, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rams43182July 04, 2018 08:16PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

dzrams245July 04, 2018 08:55PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn197July 05, 2018 12:24AM