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Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

July 03, 2018 12:09PM
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I know if he sits he doesn't get paid. He knows that, the whole world knows that.

Where did I say it's not ok for the Rams to play hardball? Most of you are already wanting to focus on the Rams hardball options. I'm simply giving you AD's one option. No one knows how hardcore he'll be about going through with it so let's not get into speculation about how much he's willing to lose.

Instead...let's answer the question. IF he sits, what do you think the Rams do?

They have three options: 1) call his bluff and let him sit, 2) trade him, or 3) cave in and pay him.

Which door do you think they go through?

(I find it very interesting that very few people - one so far - are willing to consider potential outcomes and answer this question.)

The answers to that question is irrelevant... the point is what the Rams could do.

Money is too important to AD to holdout .... call his bluff see what happens

What the Rams could do is very old news. We haven't had much discussion on what AD could do.

You better believe the Rams as organization have talked about this and have to plan for this. Fans are often too emotional to discuss such matters which is probably why there is so much reluctance to seriously consider and talk about the possibility of it happening.

You believe they would choose option 1. Fair enough. I tend to think option 2 would be the most likely result...but I could be wrong.

The problem with option 1 IMO is his salary would still count against the cap even if he wasn't playing and they would severely hurt their chances of winning a SB in 2019 without him.

2018 - 2019 are the years they're going all in. The timing is perfect because Goff is still cheap, Talib and Peters' contracts expire after 2019, Gurley will need a new contract after that year, etc. Donald sitting could throw a huge monkey wrench in the plans.

I agree with you. Option 2 sounds by far the most likely. What Donald values is playing for what he's worth.

If he gets tagged that would be 6 years playing seriously below his real market value. If he had any pride at all, and he does (he has ferocious pride), he doesn't sit still for that.

He will have already earned 6.9 M in 2018. That's enough to sit out the rest of his life.

And teams just don't do this--have a player counting against the cap, with him not playing, and then don't try to get anything for him in a trade.

I think this whole "management knows how to push labor around" idea doesn't work in the NFL against star level players with options. The Rams must know that. Last thing they want is to try to force an unhappy star to play, when under those circumstances, they get nothing for him, plus having him count against the cap the whole time whether he plays or not.

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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rampage2K-987July 02, 2018 06:16PM

  Yep. Agree with Polian the whole way

RockRam295July 03, 2018 02:15AM

  Re: Not quite...

dzrams300July 03, 2018 09:03AM

  Re: Not quite...

zn828July 03, 2018 09:19AM

  I would seriously consider sitting out

Atlantic Ram335July 04, 2018 08:03AM

  I agree with a lot of that on Donald... but on Bosa...

zn209July 04, 2018 09:47AM

  Thanks for the info on Bosa

Atlantic Ram111July 04, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

Rampage2K-163July 04, 2018 10:13AM

  no

zn159July 04, 2018 06:12PM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-119July 04, 2018 07:52PM

  Re: no

zn113July 05, 2018 12:36AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-111July 05, 2018 01:35AM

  Re: no

zn108July 05, 2018 01:45AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-251July 05, 2018 01:54AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

zn189July 04, 2018 11:11AM

  Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

RockRam221July 03, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

dzrams271July 03, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

bigjimram21153July 04, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: But that amount is still on the Rams salary cap books (nm)

dzrams123July 04, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Ramsdude275July 03, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

dzrams169July 03, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Rampage2K-543July 03, 2018 10:55AM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

dzrams252July 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: As expected...missed the point

Rampage2K-247July 03, 2018 11:12AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams211July 03, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-532July 03, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams200July 03, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-314July 03, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

dzrams160July 03, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

Rampage2K-105July 03, 2018 03:32PM

  I don't think 20+ M resets the market

zn180July 03, 2018 04:17PM

  Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rams43224July 04, 2018 06:24AM

  one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess... "DITTO"

Anonymous User230July 04, 2018 06:42AM

  LOL "fake knives"

Rampage2K-186July 04, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams107July 04, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rampage2K-316July 04, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

dzrams112July 04, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

Rampage2K-116July 04, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

CeeZar147July 04, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams247July 04, 2018 11:37AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

zn163July 03, 2018 12:09PM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

bigjimram21118July 04, 2018 01:41PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

waterfield135July 04, 2018 12:41PM

  I'll answer the tag and he sits question.

RockRam273July 03, 2018 11:08AM

  Re: An Answer! Thank you....one problem...

dzrams234July 03, 2018 11:19AM

  "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

RockRam353July 03, 2018 11:24AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

zn288July 03, 2018 11:49AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

Ramsdude106July 03, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: here is your answer..."nothing."

spagsbacker209July 03, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: Great...

dzrams147July 03, 2018 02:43PM

  Donald can become a huge disruption...

jemach119July 03, 2018 10:41AM

  Re: Donald can become a huge disruption...

Rampage2K-115July 03, 2018 10:49AM

  He knows no more than you or I...

jemach108July 03, 2018 10:56AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

dzrams108July 03, 2018 11:07AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

Ramsdude115July 03, 2018 01:48PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

RockRam109July 03, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

zn186July 03, 2018 11:58AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

Ramsdude108July 03, 2018 01:54PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing.......

Anonymous User131July 03, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rams43197July 03, 2018 06:10AM

  agent mom

wv ram158July 03, 2018 08:11AM

  Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rampage2K-262July 03, 2018 09:22AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude169July 03, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

waterfield155July 04, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rams43200July 04, 2018 06:37AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude153July 04, 2018 07:29AM

  The Rams won't get past round 1 without Donald...

jemach327July 03, 2018 10:43AM

  Re: I agree...

dzrams200July 03, 2018 11:40AM

  My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

RFL211July 04, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn182July 04, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rampage2K-291July 04, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

AlbaNY_Ram190July 04, 2018 12:14PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn163July 04, 2018 02:31PM

  I am with you on this all the way (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram98July 04, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rams43182July 04, 2018 08:16PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

dzrams245July 04, 2018 08:55PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn197July 05, 2018 12:24AM