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Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

July 04, 2018 09:57AM
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dzrams
I play a little chess myself. It's only checkmate when you have no more moves.

His biggest move would be refusal to play once his contract expires.

His refusing to play and demanding a trade is a credible option if he thinks it would force the Rams into trading him to a team willing to pay what he's asking.

And only he and his agent would know if there were any teams out there willing to get close. One thing fans don't realize often is that there are a lot of "illegal" talking that happens. Agents get a good idea of what kind of money is out there.

That's why when the Rams offered JJ $9M, his agent knew he could get nearly 40% more. Sure enough, he got it with $12.5M.

And when the Rams offered Watkins a "significant amount", his agent knew he could get much more. Sure enough, he got substantially more at $16M surprising everyone....but the agent of course.

This whole idea of, 'we know more than agent despite only having about 30% of the data', is stupid and arrogant. Just one man's opinion...

As for CeeZar's thread, it's a very incomplete analysis IMO. I'm not wasting any time with it because it's foundational premise that players that holdout and demand a trade rarely get traded seems factually unsupported to me. The rest of it seems like typical Rams fans wishful thinking assumptions that a player getting traded is going to necessarily end up in a worse situation.

JJ and Watkins were free agents, that's a little different situation then AD, they have to find a team (probably in AFC) with plenty of cap space(probably a team with rookie QB contract) and a team willing to give up multiple high picks....Goodluck Smiley

AD is not exactly the free agent some try to make him out to be.



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  Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rampage2K-987July 02, 2018 06:16PM

  Yep. Agree with Polian the whole way

RockRam294July 03, 2018 02:15AM

  Re: Not quite...

dzrams299July 03, 2018 09:03AM

  Re: Not quite...

zn827July 03, 2018 09:19AM

  I would seriously consider sitting out

Atlantic Ram335July 04, 2018 08:03AM

  I agree with a lot of that on Donald... but on Bosa...

zn209July 04, 2018 09:47AM

  Thanks for the info on Bosa

Atlantic Ram110July 04, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

Rampage2K-162July 04, 2018 10:13AM

  no

zn159July 04, 2018 06:12PM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-119July 04, 2018 07:52PM

  Re: no

zn113July 05, 2018 12:36AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-111July 05, 2018 01:35AM

  Re: no

zn108July 05, 2018 01:45AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-250July 05, 2018 01:54AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

zn188July 04, 2018 11:11AM

  Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

RockRam220July 03, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

dzrams271July 03, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

bigjimram21152July 04, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: But that amount is still on the Rams salary cap books (nm)

dzrams123July 04, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Ramsdude275July 03, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

dzrams169July 03, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Rampage2K-542July 03, 2018 10:55AM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

dzrams252July 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: As expected...missed the point

Rampage2K-247July 03, 2018 11:12AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams211July 03, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-532July 03, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams199July 03, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-313July 03, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

dzrams160July 03, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

Rampage2K-105July 03, 2018 03:32PM

  I don't think 20+ M resets the market

zn180July 03, 2018 04:17PM

  Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rams43224July 04, 2018 06:24AM

  one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess... "DITTO"

Anonymous User230July 04, 2018 06:42AM

  LOL "fake knives"

Rampage2K-186July 04, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams107July 04, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rampage2K-315July 04, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

dzrams112July 04, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

Rampage2K-116July 04, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

CeeZar146July 04, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams246July 04, 2018 11:37AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

zn163July 03, 2018 12:09PM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

bigjimram21117July 04, 2018 01:41PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

waterfield135July 04, 2018 12:41PM

  I'll answer the tag and he sits question.

RockRam272July 03, 2018 11:08AM

  Re: An Answer! Thank you....one problem...

dzrams233July 03, 2018 11:19AM

  "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

RockRam352July 03, 2018 11:24AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

zn287July 03, 2018 11:49AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

Ramsdude105July 03, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: here is your answer..."nothing."

spagsbacker209July 03, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: Great...

dzrams147July 03, 2018 02:43PM

  Donald can become a huge disruption...

jemach119July 03, 2018 10:41AM

  Re: Donald can become a huge disruption...

Rampage2K-115July 03, 2018 10:49AM

  He knows no more than you or I...

jemach108July 03, 2018 10:56AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

dzrams108July 03, 2018 11:07AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

Ramsdude115July 03, 2018 01:48PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

RockRam109July 03, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

zn186July 03, 2018 11:58AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

Ramsdude107July 03, 2018 01:54PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing.......

Anonymous User131July 03, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rams43197July 03, 2018 06:10AM

  agent mom

wv ram158July 03, 2018 08:11AM

  Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rampage2K-261July 03, 2018 09:22AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude169July 03, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

waterfield154July 04, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rams43199July 04, 2018 06:37AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude153July 04, 2018 07:29AM

  The Rams won't get past round 1 without Donald...

jemach326July 03, 2018 10:43AM

  Re: I agree...

dzrams199July 03, 2018 11:40AM

  My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

RFL211July 04, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn181July 04, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rampage2K-290July 04, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

AlbaNY_Ram189July 04, 2018 12:14PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn163July 04, 2018 02:31PM

  I am with you on this all the way (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram98July 04, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rams43182July 04, 2018 08:16PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

dzrams245July 04, 2018 08:55PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn197July 05, 2018 12:24AM