July 01, 2018 10:25AM
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“I’ve been told by multiple people in the NFL if this was just about Aaron Donald being the highest-paid defensive player in the history of the NFL, the deal would have already gotten done. Why? Because the Rams look like they are ready to do that. It’s probably going to be $20 million plus that they end up paying him. But, what I have been told is that doesn’t appear to be all he’s looking for. He wants to not only be the highest-paid defensive player of all-time, but it looks like in talking with some people, he wants to get paid like a quarterback. A high-level quarterback.”

There are a lot of mistakes there.

1. No one knows what the Rams are offering. That's people speculating. Notice the "probably": "It’s probably going to be $20 million plus...." IE they don't know and it's naive to act like they do know.

2. People routinely don't get what "qb money" is. QB money in 2018 is 28 M. It's not 24 M--it was 24 M in 2016. On top of it, the way contracts work, the term "a high level qb" makes no sense because that's not how the contract market works. 2nd contracts go up steadily each year and not everyone getting paid is a "high level qb." Wilson got 22 M in 2015. Cousins got 28 M in 2018. Is Cousins a "high level qb" while Wilson isn't? In terms of 3rd and 4th contracts, those are all over the map. Brady got 21 M after being the highest paid qb in the league. Ryan got 30 M. Those kinds of 3rd and 4th contracts are all over the map. So the standard for someone up for a 2nd contract is 2nd contracts. In short, that whole passage is very confused. What that sounds like to me is that someone who was speculating with VB just did not get what "qb money" is.

3. DZ is right. Demoff did NOT say Donald would be the highest paid defensive player. He said he would be AMONG the highest paid defenders. Put that way, if he literally means it, they could lowball AD with just less that what Von Miller got and he still would be among the highest paid defenders...but that's not AD's real market value and range, since contracts go up and Von Miller was 3 contract years ago.

Notice one thing though. VB does not get into the "opt out clause" thing, which some people swore was real because one writer speculated about it and others just repeated him (and then with posters it erroneously got called "a widely reported thing" when even just a brief glance told you it was no such thing.)

If VB had a real source with real figures reporting facts he would have said so. What he does have is some people speculating, and he very carefully makes sure he does not report it as "fact."

If you're basing your pro-management, anti-player "suspicions" on that statement, it's on the thinnest possible ice, plus it means you're ignoring what Demoff directly said.










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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/01/2018 10:34AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  PFT- Donald has NO leverage over Rams

Rampage2K-834June 30, 2018 11:50AM

  sorry that's just wrong

zn447June 30, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: sorry that's just wrong

Rampage2K-482June 30, 2018 02:28PM

  Re: Simple question...

dzrams337June 30, 2018 04:12PM

  here's the problem with your assumptions

zn289July 01, 2018 02:37AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rampage2K-220July 01, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rams43386July 01, 2018 09:49AM

  There's this little thing called a CBA that blows your logic

RockRam506June 30, 2018 02:44PM

  nope

zn225June 30, 2018 03:14PM

  Re: nope

CeeZar260June 30, 2018 03:41PM

  Re: nope

zn371June 30, 2018 03:54PM

  Re: The best business decision...

dzrams226June 30, 2018 04:16PM

  it's the rhetoric that's emotional...

CeeZar227June 30, 2018 04:59PM

  exactly

zn240June 30, 2018 07:15PM

  Its not quite that black and white, IMHO

CeeZar205June 30, 2018 03:20PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

spagsbacker238June 30, 2018 12:41PM

  everything you say

zn261June 30, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

spagsbacker284June 30, 2018 01:12PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

Ramsdude384June 30, 2018 01:20PM

  nope..."assume"

zn254June 30, 2018 01:42PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams250June 30, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn189June 30, 2018 02:12PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-322June 30, 2018 02:21PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams180June 30, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-168July 01, 2018 09:20AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams316July 01, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-161July 01, 2018 09:53AM

  been through this already..

zn204July 01, 2018 10:25AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rams43210July 01, 2018 10:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-209July 01, 2018 11:13AM

  Re: been through this already..

dzrams183July 01, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

zn169July 01, 2018 03:23PM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-174July 01, 2018 04:10PM

  Re: been through this already..

zn214July 01, 2018 06:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams226July 01, 2018 11:43AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn162July 01, 2018 03:52PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams161July 01, 2018 04:14PM

  okay I get it now

zn174July 01, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-169July 01, 2018 04:37PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams188July 01, 2018 04:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn176July 01, 2018 05:03PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

reggae177June 30, 2018 03:11PM

  The words...

jemach179July 01, 2018 05:24AM

  Why would Donald want a trade?

max267June 30, 2018 06:11PM

  no trade now, only if tagged in 2019

zn254June 30, 2018 07:09PM

  Yeah, I know...

max234July 01, 2018 01:34AM

  You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Ramgator240July 01, 2018 04:08AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

zn251July 01, 2018 04:27AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Rampage2K-279July 01, 2018 09:28AM

  EXACTLY!!! Paying Donald the world won't mean jack.....

Ramgator200July 02, 2018 03:08AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

spagsbacker224July 01, 2018 07:18AM

  One MUST consider the $'s

Anonymous User606July 01, 2018 07:36AM

  no it's not "absurd" it;s the expected amount

zn206July 01, 2018 07:39AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

dzrams311July 01, 2018 08:07AM

  What do you think his trade value is?

CeeZar222July 01, 2018 08:44AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

Rams43205July 01, 2018 08:57AM

  consider the $'s: Good take dzrams and you prob trade him

Anonymous User254July 01, 2018 01:40PM

  disagree with this one point

zn169July 01, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

Anonymous User246July 01, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

zn166July 01, 2018 03:34PM

  $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

CeeZar190July 01, 2018 08:24AM

  Re: $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

dzrams180July 01, 2018 09:22AM