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June 30, 2018 12:55PM
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spagsbacker
but i do. i want to use the leverage to get a fair deal done with A Donald. That does not make him the highest paid defender in the league. im sorry im not willing to trade that leverage for what....nothing. If Donald's agents refuse to negotiate a fair deal based on the rams not franchising him for next few years, then I play hardball. From all reports, Rams offered and are offering a very fair deal. It is probably even more than i would offer, but his agents seem to be balking. Holding out last year until the day before the season was annoying and caused him to miss the first game. That is a problem. Is he going to do that again this year? That immediately puts the team's record in jeopardy....and this year, even more than ever....every game will count. Im tired of this. I set a hard deadline, and then pull the offer if they do not come to the table.

go rams.

Everything you say presumes that if there's a problem it's Donald, and the righteous and pure Rams have no choice but to play hardball.

There is absolutely no basis for believing any of that.

We don't know why the contract is still up in the air. It could be Donald. It could be the Rams. It could be both. It could be neither.

But someone of a different mind could come along and write up that entire scenario as you just described it and instead make the Rams bad guys. They could be lowballing, they could be trying to force Donald into accepting a lowball, they could just be approaching this blind that way.

That fictional scenario would have about the same status as yours---it wouldn't mean anything because we do not have the information to go on.

All people are doing now, given that we all know nothing, is giving away our biases. In the absence of any real info, some are pro-management, some are pro-player, some have no idea what's going on and say so, some are hanging back until they hear more. But no one knows anything.

So right now a "Donald is wrong and needs to be hardballed" fiction is absolutely no different from a "the Rams are doing this wrong and Donald needs to stand up for what's fair" fiction. They're equally the same. If any of us believe either one, it's on us---it says a lot about the assumptions we make. It really doesn't say anything about the reality.

When we actually do know more, I will be right there jumping on it to see what it means. Till then,. cool smiley
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  PFT- Donald has NO leverage over Rams

Rampage2K-834June 30, 2018 11:50AM

  sorry that's just wrong

zn446June 30, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: sorry that's just wrong

Rampage2K-480June 30, 2018 02:28PM

  Re: Simple question...

dzrams336June 30, 2018 04:12PM

  here's the problem with your assumptions

zn288July 01, 2018 02:37AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rampage2K-220July 01, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rams43385July 01, 2018 09:49AM

  There's this little thing called a CBA that blows your logic

RockRam506June 30, 2018 02:44PM

  nope

zn224June 30, 2018 03:14PM

  Re: nope

CeeZar260June 30, 2018 03:41PM

  Re: nope

zn371June 30, 2018 03:54PM

  Re: The best business decision...

dzrams226June 30, 2018 04:16PM

  it's the rhetoric that's emotional...

CeeZar227June 30, 2018 04:59PM

  exactly

zn239June 30, 2018 07:15PM

  Its not quite that black and white, IMHO

CeeZar205June 30, 2018 03:20PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

spagsbacker237June 30, 2018 12:41PM

  everything you say

zn260June 30, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

spagsbacker283June 30, 2018 01:12PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

Ramsdude383June 30, 2018 01:20PM

  nope..."assume"

zn252June 30, 2018 01:42PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams248June 30, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn189June 30, 2018 02:12PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-320June 30, 2018 02:21PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams179June 30, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-166July 01, 2018 09:20AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams316July 01, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-161July 01, 2018 09:53AM

  been through this already..

zn204July 01, 2018 10:25AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rams43210July 01, 2018 10:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-208July 01, 2018 11:13AM

  Re: been through this already..

dzrams181July 01, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

zn169July 01, 2018 03:23PM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-173July 01, 2018 04:10PM

  Re: been through this already..

zn214July 01, 2018 06:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams226July 01, 2018 11:43AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn161July 01, 2018 03:52PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams160July 01, 2018 04:14PM

  okay I get it now

zn173July 01, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-169July 01, 2018 04:37PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams188July 01, 2018 04:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn176July 01, 2018 05:03PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

reggae176June 30, 2018 03:11PM

  The words...

jemach178July 01, 2018 05:24AM

  Why would Donald want a trade?

max265June 30, 2018 06:11PM

  no trade now, only if tagged in 2019

zn253June 30, 2018 07:09PM

  Yeah, I know...

max231July 01, 2018 01:34AM

  You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Ramgator240July 01, 2018 04:08AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

zn250July 01, 2018 04:27AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Rampage2K-278July 01, 2018 09:28AM

  EXACTLY!!! Paying Donald the world won't mean jack.....

Ramgator200July 02, 2018 03:08AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

spagsbacker223July 01, 2018 07:18AM

  One MUST consider the $'s

Anonymous User604July 01, 2018 07:36AM

  no it's not "absurd" it;s the expected amount

zn204July 01, 2018 07:39AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

dzrams309July 01, 2018 08:07AM

  What do you think his trade value is?

CeeZar221July 01, 2018 08:44AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

Rams43204July 01, 2018 08:57AM

  consider the $'s: Good take dzrams and you prob trade him

Anonymous User254July 01, 2018 01:40PM

  disagree with this one point

zn169July 01, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

Anonymous User246July 01, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

zn166July 01, 2018 03:34PM

  $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

CeeZar189July 01, 2018 08:24AM

  Re: $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

dzrams179July 01, 2018 09:22AM