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July 01, 2018 04:26PM
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The way I take Vinny's article here is it's a signal from the Rams that they're willing to go higher than the offer actually on the table but they need AD to come down from his outrageous demands.

Do you genuinely believe AD's demands are "outrageous"?

I would say that unless we hear real numbers, there's no way to judge that.

So for example I can imagine a universe in which a sticker-shocked Rams perceive 24 M as "outrageous" when from another point of view, that's within a plausible range.

That was fiction just to make a point.

I share your concerns about Demoff's language---"among the top defenders" could even mean LESS money than Von Miller, but that would not be market value. I don't know if they're doing that but it does raise a concern that he spoke that way.

But I am not sure that without numbers that I have seen any evidence that AD's demands are :"outrageous."

Maybe they really are.Who knows. But I just don't think we have enough to go on to determine that.

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I have no idea if his demands are outrageous. No one can know that as you say... I was making that statement from the Rams position. That last sentence is essentially what I hear them saying from VB's article. I should have made that clearer.

If I was AD I'd be asking for $24-25. Is that outrageous?

Yeah I didn't get that you were "ventriloquizing."
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  PFT- Donald has NO leverage over Rams

Rampage2K-834June 30, 2018 11:50AM

  sorry that's just wrong

zn447June 30, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: sorry that's just wrong

Rampage2K-481June 30, 2018 02:28PM

  Re: Simple question...

dzrams337June 30, 2018 04:12PM

  here's the problem with your assumptions

zn288July 01, 2018 02:37AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rampage2K-220July 01, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: here's the problem with your assumptions...ummm ok

Rams43385July 01, 2018 09:49AM

  There's this little thing called a CBA that blows your logic

RockRam506June 30, 2018 02:44PM

  nope

zn225June 30, 2018 03:14PM

  Re: nope

CeeZar260June 30, 2018 03:41PM

  Re: nope

zn371June 30, 2018 03:54PM

  Re: The best business decision...

dzrams226June 30, 2018 04:16PM

  it's the rhetoric that's emotional...

CeeZar227June 30, 2018 04:59PM

  exactly

zn239June 30, 2018 07:15PM

  Its not quite that black and white, IMHO

CeeZar205June 30, 2018 03:20PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

spagsbacker237June 30, 2018 12:41PM

  everything you say

zn261June 30, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

spagsbacker283June 30, 2018 01:12PM

  Re: you're right, just going by what i suspect....

Ramsdude383June 30, 2018 01:20PM

  nope..."assume"

zn253June 30, 2018 01:42PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams249June 30, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn189June 30, 2018 02:12PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-320June 30, 2018 02:21PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams179June 30, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-167July 01, 2018 09:20AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams316July 01, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-161July 01, 2018 09:53AM

  been through this already..

zn204July 01, 2018 10:25AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rams43210July 01, 2018 10:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-208July 01, 2018 11:13AM

  Re: been through this already..

dzrams182July 01, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: been through this already..

zn169July 01, 2018 03:23PM

  Re: been through this already..

Rampage2K-173July 01, 2018 04:10PM

  Re: been through this already..

zn214July 01, 2018 06:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams226July 01, 2018 11:43AM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn162July 01, 2018 03:52PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams160July 01, 2018 04:14PM

  okay I get it now

zn173July 01, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

Rampage2K-169July 01, 2018 04:37PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

dzrams188July 01, 2018 04:49PM

  Re: I've got different suspicions...

zn176July 01, 2018 05:03PM

  Re: nobody here seems to want to use it...

reggae176June 30, 2018 03:11PM

  The words...

jemach178July 01, 2018 05:24AM

  Why would Donald want a trade?

max266June 30, 2018 06:11PM

  no trade now, only if tagged in 2019

zn253June 30, 2018 07:09PM

  Yeah, I know...

max232July 01, 2018 01:34AM

  You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Ramgator240July 01, 2018 04:08AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

zn251July 01, 2018 04:27AM

  Re: You guys know me. I find this all disgusting

Rampage2K-278July 01, 2018 09:28AM

  EXACTLY!!! Paying Donald the world won't mean jack.....

Ramgator200July 02, 2018 03:08AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

spagsbacker223July 01, 2018 07:18AM

  One MUST consider the $'s

Anonymous User605July 01, 2018 07:36AM

  no it's not "absurd" it;s the expected amount

zn205July 01, 2018 07:39AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

dzrams310July 01, 2018 08:07AM

  What do you think his trade value is?

CeeZar221July 01, 2018 08:44AM

  Re: One MUST consider the $'s

Rams43204July 01, 2018 08:57AM

  consider the $'s: Good take dzrams and you prob trade him

Anonymous User254July 01, 2018 01:40PM

  disagree with this one point

zn169July 01, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

Anonymous User246July 01, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: disagree with this one point

zn166July 01, 2018 03:34PM

  $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

CeeZar190July 01, 2018 08:24AM

  Re: $20/$21 Million is probably the floor

dzrams180July 01, 2018 09:22AM