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also for the record

May 28, 2018 07:08AM
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den-the-coach
you only have to look at Foles, Keenum & Goff for exhibit A, B & C!

Wih all due respect, I think that whole argument is just a series of fallacies.

First Goff came out especially green in 2016 as all Air Raid qbs do. Air Raid qbs start out greener than most--and in fact there's a long series of busts with them going back a couple of decades, and the ones who eventually played well never did it in their first year or 2.And the ones who did eventually play decently well in the pros? It is a mere handful. In fact if Mahomes makes it as a pro qb in KC, he will be the 4th out of all of them who even did that much. And Goff had his first year without a running game. Look at last year and ask how much the running game contributed to him breaking through in his 2nd year.

Foles to me proves what he has always proved---he is a very streaky qb who had one good year in a pro spread system. Every other year he has had streaks of very bad play and that includes last year. Fortunately a top offensive coach could take advantage of what in effect was 2 bye weeks to get a good streak out of him in the postseason. Foles was always at his best in the first weeks and after a bye. Meanwhile his long streaks of melted down play is one of the things his 2014, 2015, and 2017 seasons had in common.

Keenum never played well in his pro career UNTIL the Rams but in 2016 faded when it became apparent he had to carry a team without a running game. Fortunately for him he had a good situation with the Vikes, but when he got exposed, with the offense having to put it all on him, he folded then too. The running game is so important to CK that the Vikes made sure they were 2nd in rushing attempts even though they were 23rd in yards per carry.

Other qbs played well for Fisher in the past too.

Let;s not overdo things.













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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/28/2018 07:20AM by zn.
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  For the record,...

max1060May 27, 2018 04:36PM

  Nice Call Max!

droopy323May 27, 2018 05:13PM

  Re: Nice Call Max!

max277May 27, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: Ha! Hilarious

Speed_Kills231May 27, 2018 05:35PM

  Re: Uhh after that Chargers game last year

Speed_Kills263May 27, 2018 05:34PM

  Re: Uhh after that Chargers game last year

max232May 27, 2018 05:44PM

  Re: Man all last summer you were off

Speed_Kills364May 27, 2018 06:19PM

  Man all last summer you were off

Anonymous User358May 27, 2018 09:06PM

  Re: Man all last summer you were off

zn207May 27, 2018 09:30PM

  Re: Man all last summer you were off

max361May 27, 2018 10:40PM

  Re: lol!!!

Speed_Kills162May 28, 2018 04:55AM

  Re: Man all last summer you were off

max181May 28, 2018 03:13AM

  For The Record

den-the-coach237May 28, 2018 05:30AM

  Re: For The Record

max169May 28, 2018 06:21AM

  Re: Yup true. I recall our conversations about it

Speed_Kills316May 28, 2018 06:33AM

  Re: Good stuff coach

Speed_Kills158May 28, 2018 06:28AM

  also for the record

zn165May 28, 2018 07:08AM

  Re: well I don’t think max needs you to speak for him

Speed_Kills152May 28, 2018 05:19AM

  Re: well I don’t think max needs you to speak for him

max154May 28, 2018 05:56AM

  Re: Here you go

Speed_Kills129May 28, 2018 06:03AM

  Re: Here you go

max172May 28, 2018 06:15AM

  Re: Ok fair enough

Speed_Kills155May 28, 2018 06:30AM

  Does It Matter?

den-the-coach168May 28, 2018 06:25AM

  + 1 nm

max121May 28, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: Yes and that was my point

Speed_Kills188May 28, 2018 06:39AM

  Re: Yes and that was my point

den-the-coach167May 28, 2018 07:07AM

  Re: Yes and that was my point

zn167May 28, 2018 07:12AM

  Re: Yes and that was my point

den-the-coach159May 28, 2018 07:20AM

  no not even a little

zn154May 28, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: no not even a little

den-the-coach150May 28, 2018 07:35AM

  Re: no not even a little

zn162May 28, 2018 08:35AM

  Re: you had me until Fisher

Speed_Kills129May 28, 2018 10:36AM

  Re: you had me until Fisher

zn162May 28, 2018 01:38PM

  Keep it clear

max127May 28, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: lol Thank you sir nm

Speed_Kills131May 28, 2018 02:20PM

  I know

zn130May 28, 2018 04:06PM

  Re: You don’t think Fisher was a problem?

Speed_Kills111May 28, 2018 04:27PM

  read my post my friend

zn168May 28, 2018 04:46PM

  yup Nm

Speed_Kills102May 29, 2018 02:16AM

  Re: I know

max228May 28, 2018 04:40PM

  Re: Yes and that was my point

Rams43176May 28, 2018 07:36AM

  Re: Fishers issues with Goff

Speed_Kills153May 28, 2018 10:39AM

  @ Den the coach

ferragamo79279May 28, 2018 08:01AM

  Re: @ Den the coach

den-the-coach168May 28, 2018 08:57AM

  Re: no .... poster of the year trophies will not be awarded

Speed_Kills298May 28, 2018 10:49AM

  Honestly, there was no “wrong” choice between Goff and Wentz...

Rams43260May 28, 2018 07:29AM

  Honestly, there was no “wrong” choice between Goff and Wentz

Anonymous User210May 28, 2018 09:23AM

  Re: Yeah as is usually the case I think

Speed_Kills172May 28, 2018 11:08AM

  Yeah usually the case I think: You weren't there Speed:

Anonymous User220May 28, 2018 12:36PM

  I was posting at that time

Speed_Kills130May 28, 2018 01:16PM

  This thread was about stumbling over an old tweet.

max135May 28, 2018 01:36PM

  I remember.

Saguaro148May 29, 2018 02:30AM

  I supported the trade and pick and

BumRap187May 28, 2018 08:52AM

  great Point about game slowing down for Goff

max157May 28, 2018 11:15AM

  Good job Max!

Los Angeles Lenny148May 28, 2018 02:52PM

  Re: Good job Max!

max138May 29, 2018 12:30AM