Yeah usually the case I think: You weren't there Speed:

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You are getting ahead of yourself Imo

We know nothing for sure yet and easily one regression by Goff and continuing MVP season by Wentz in their 3rd season puts Wentz ahead even further. Very few people would even argue that Goff is the better QB after 2 seasons. On the other hand an explosion by Goff and regression by Wentz would have the opposite effect.

Its too soon to make a call either way

Also as far as Mariota and Winston I think the biggest advantage that Goff and Wentz have over them is McVay and Pederson

Good valid points on McVay and Pederson. Those were brought up many times during the 2016 season for various obvious reasons.

You weren't there in the board discussions during the pre-draft of 2016 Speed. Does that make you inept? no but you have been posting what some said and projected post 2016 draft period on this forum.

Using the getting ahead of yourself card is easy to throw out there as we need more time to make any projection a fact. No new revaluation there.

You also responded to me that max can speak for himself but if you read max's response to me he said "that" as in he agreed with what I posted.

I don't speak for other posters but I know what max and I along with Rams43 and others discussed on the board during the Goff/Wents discussions when you weren't posting during that time period.

Don't take that wrong my Rams brother but I know what I remember before the board crashed and I have a good memory of who was involved in those pre-drraft discussions.

The timeline of those discussions are paramount for me when it comes to telling people that all last summer they were off or what others are implying and labeling them as getting ahead of themselves. I know what they're saying/meaning when they post it. They are not making factual fantasy guarantees

They are speaking from positions they held during and after the Fisher era. I don't read their minds entirely but I get the gist of many of these posters that were sharing their insight a month or 2 before the 2016 draft concluded.

If you were involved in all those discussions you would probably understand what the intent of my response to your perception is. I could be wrong and you can simply draw all the dots and have all the evidence you need to draw your conclusions.

Doesn't matter we all want the same thing.. Goff to explode in 2018.