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February 06, 2018 04:04AM
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In a way Nick Foles reminds me of a great NBA player-Scottie Pippen. Very smooth, always calm, extremely accurate with passes

That is absolutely not who he is.

He has a long history of being very streaky and up and down. And when he is panicked he will throw the ball all over the place. His accuracy is not one of his consistent strengths. And he has fallen completely apart on the field. Other qbs for example that had roughly the same conditions he had with the Rams never melted down as bad as he did when he did---including Clemens, Hill, and Keenum (Davis on the other hand DID melt down as bad as Foles did when Foles finally melted down). In meltdown mode Foles lacked even a hint of confidence and was basically a panicked wreck.

Even this year out of his 6 games played he had his normal bad streak---against Oakland in the regular season, he completed 50% of his passes for a qb rating of 59.4, and the following week against Dallas he completed 36% of his passes for a qb rating of 9.3.

There's a lot that explains why he was good for the Eagles in the post-season, and also why he had wildly bad streaks with both the Rams and the Eagles the first time he was there.

He does have up streaks along with the down streaks, so there's that. The Eagles coaching staff took advantage of a great OL and a great running game to set him up to do what he does best. The Eagles receivers are adept at making the not-always-accurate-downfield Wentz look good and they did the same for Foles. Pederson was Foles's qb coach the year he was drafted, so he knew Foles well enough to build his confidence and set him up to do the things he did best. And the Eagles offense exploited some problems that were built right into the Patz passing defense.

Lots of factors and it all played out right. Just first-rate coaching is the main thing, and I mean on a lot of levels.


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That’s the best explanation I’ve seen on Foles as a reality check.

I've always had the impression that Cignetti and Foles clashed. That neither one handled that well. I think that that's why Cigz was fired at the same time Foles was benched--that the Rams didn't like the way Cigz handled that. There were hints of that in the media if you knew how to spot them, but no one came right out and said it. One example is the fact that sometimes when Foles would screw up on a play the game cameras would show Cigs in the booth openly and clearly doing things like rolling his eyes or shaking his head, with some anger behind it. I also don't think that in 2015 Foles was far enough down the "pro offensive style" road after playing an Air Raid in college and then 2 years in Kelly's spread. I would imagine that getting dumped/traded in Phil and then hitting a bad rough spot in St.L with conflicts with the OC added to it messed with his confidence. I think he's still streaky but he's also more settled now, had 2 solid years learning a WCO in KC and Phil, and that Pederson being his qb coach when he was drafted in 2012 matters. There are guys who struggled at first then redeemed themselves with some good seasons, like Josh McCown, who has played respectably 2-3 seasons now, in bad circumstances too, in spite of getting off to a very rough start in his career. Or for that matter Alex Smith. One thing an offense always has to account for with Foles is that he's just slow footed and slow in his throwing motion too. But if you have a good OL you can factor that in.


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  Foles

waterfield732February 05, 2018 09:12AM

  lol....no no no -:)

zn450February 05, 2018 09:33AM

  Re: lol....no no no -:)

Steve229February 05, 2018 09:39AM

  Great post!

max239February 06, 2018 01:22AM

  Re: Great post!

zn167February 06, 2018 04:04AM

  Re: Great post!

max136February 06, 2018 04:52AM

  Re: Great post!

zn284February 06, 2018 09:56PM

  Re: Great post!

max155February 07, 2018 08:25AM

  Re: Great post!

zn133February 07, 2018 08:29AM

  Re: Great post!

max110February 07, 2018 08:39AM

  Re: Great post!

zn163February 07, 2018 08:45AM

  Re: Great post!

max271February 07, 2018 08:58AM

  I don't think...

JamesJM121February 07, 2018 09:19AM

  First of all

waterfield154February 07, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: First of all

zn110February 07, 2018 10:14AM

  Re: I don't think...

zn131February 07, 2018 09:59AM

  Nope... it makes perfect sense. (nm)

JamesJM259February 07, 2018 10:35AM

  well to you maybe

zn117February 07, 2018 10:43AM

  Well, there can't be one, ZN...

JamesJM132February 07, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Well, there can't be one, ZN...

zn126February 07, 2018 11:18AM

  Re: Well, there can't be one, ZN...

moklerman123February 07, 2018 11:32AM

  I doubt it. :)

JamesJM118February 07, 2018 11:33AM

  lol, no

zn130February 07, 2018 12:28PM

  I totally disagree ZN

six2stack125February 07, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: I totally disagree ZN

max282February 07, 2018 09:42AM

  answer this then

zn141February 07, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: answer this then

moklerman136February 07, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: answer this then

max126February 07, 2018 11:56AM

  ZN, I did say Foles was streaky

six2stack127February 07, 2018 12:08PM

  Re: False narrative...

laram209February 06, 2018 05:26AM

  I said that

zn180February 06, 2018 01:50PM

  Re: Then why no response to the Wentz stuff?

laram134February 07, 2018 08:33AM

  Re: Then why no response to the Wentz stuff?

zn233February 07, 2018 12:37PM

  I don't think Foles is anyone we can think of

NewMexicoRam150February 06, 2018 02:47AM

  Pippen

wv ram171February 06, 2018 02:48AM

  Re: Pippen

21Dog184February 06, 2018 04:33AM

  Jordon overrated and Pippen underrated

Rams_81201February 06, 2018 06:24PM

  The difference?

Speedball89132February 07, 2018 08:41AM

  style

wv ram141February 07, 2018 10:16AM

  Foles did a good job, but needs a great offense to function well

RockRam145February 06, 2018 04:23AM

  Re: Foles did a good job, but needs a great offense to function well

waterfield261February 06, 2018 07:55AM

  Re: Foles did a good job, but needs a great offense to function well

moklerman152February 06, 2018 08:58AM

  Foles needs good coaching and players around him

Rams_81260February 06, 2018 06:19PM

  Re: Foles is a starter caliber QB

Speed_Kills129February 07, 2018 09:40AM

  Re: Foles is a starter caliber QB

zn234February 07, 2018 11:21AM

  Re: yes it does IMO

Speed_Kills142February 07, 2018 12:36PM

  no not like that

zn198February 07, 2018 12:59PM