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December 22, 2017 12:25PM
I don't know who TG25 is but calling McGinnis a "moron" is over the top.
I can think of lots of thing that TG25 could be called. "Football knowledgeable" isn't one of them

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2017 LOS ANGELES RAMS REGULAR SEASON
Dave McGinnis, former assistant to LA Rams HC Jeff Fisher, believes they deserve credit for 2017 success
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Yes, McGinnis says he and Jeff Fisher were the masterminds behind the NOW-good Rams. Kick rocks, pal...

“First of all, Jeff Fisher and I, we built this roster, you know what I’m saying?

Get a load of this moron.

During an interview with the Tennessean, Dave McGinnis who worked under Jeff Fisher as former linebacker coach for the Tennessee Titans and assistant coach for the St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams was all too happy to take credit for something that he and Fisher effed up. Royally.

So I know these guys very, very well. This defense and special teams of the Rams has been playoff-ready for two years, ability-wise and performance-wise.

The 2015 and 2016 Rams would have been playoff-ready only if the playoff bracket included Cleveland, Indianapolis, San Francisco, Chicago, and the New York Jets. Then again, the Rams got their asses beat by the 49ers twice in 2016 and barely beat the Jets, so even in that field they would not make it far.

The last two years, the offense has been historically bad. The offensive line was not good, was underperforming, could not get any stability at quarterback. The receivers, that was the issue. And we knew if we could ever just get, when we drafted Jared Goff, Jeff Fisher did the Rams organization a huge favor by not playing him right away because he would have ruined the kid just like David Carr got ruined when he had to play at Houston when they drafted him and got him 76 sacks his first year. He never recovered from that.

Ol’ Dave takes a page right out of Fisher’s book and makes it sound like Fisher had nothing to do with that underperforming offense. Like it’s a separate department that Fisher’s HEAD COACH status doesn’t reach.

But like a true lemming, Dave throws out the “you guys should be thanking Jeff Fisher for not playing QB Jared Goff early because he would have been ruined.”

Fisher threw Goff out with seven games left and he nearly killed him, so go ahead and miss me with that.
QB Case Keenum literally died on the field and Fisher left him in the game with a concussion.
"I didn't see anything from my vantage point on the sideline as far as Case's slow recovery — the shots that you've seen where he got up slow, the shots that we've seen out there. I didn't see that."

- Jeff Fisher, 2015

30-for-30 Idea: The coach who was blind.

“What if I told you, you don’t need eyes so see that your quarterback isn’t aware of who he is.”

Dave talks about Goff later in the interview...

“...The kid’s got an arm. He’s smart. He’s a worker. He’s a grinder. Absolutely. We knew he needed some people around him, and he needed a system. And that system is perfect for him.

“Goff needed a system. So we did what any good coaching staff would do by not giving him a system he needed. You’re welcome.”

For those who don’t actively follow the Tennessee media scene, Dave McGinnis is now the color commentator for the Tennessee Titans. He worked as Fisher’s linebackers coach with the Titans (2004-2011) and as his assistant head coach with the St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams (2012-2016). Knowing that makes it easier to understand why he gives Fisher such high praise.

He’s just Fisher’s stooge.

But anyway, what Sean McVay has done is bring a tremendous offensive system in there. They traded the worst-performing left tackle in the league, Greg Robinson, who is now out of the league, and paid money for the best-performing left tackle, Andrew Whitworth.

Yeah, and who drafted Greg Robinson, you dolt?

Todd Gurley is the real deal, and Jeff Fisher could envision him being his Eddie George for the next seven or eight years. That’s how it was put together. This defensive group we left for Wade Phillips to inherit is extremely talented, especially the front seven.

Remember that defense that could never stop the run and finished near the bottom of the league in sacks? Yeah, Wade Phillips should be kissing my ass for all the work I did for him.

I mean, Aaron Donald could be the defensive MVP of the league. Michael Brockers, who we took No. 1 out of LSU, is as good as there is. Robert Quinn is a No. 1 pick. It’s a really good defensive line. And then Alec Ogletree and Mark Barron are two of the best behind-the-line linebackers going right now. Especially the way Wade is using them. ... It’s a talented team. It’s a well-coached team. We left them a lot of talent.

Any idiot can pick talent. Prime example: Jeff Fisher.

“We left them.” Shut up, Dave. You set fire to a house and are asking for praise because McVay and Phillips cleaned it up. “Especially the way Wade is using them.” Yeah, Wade. Not Dave. Not Fisher. Wade.

Also, Robert Quinn was not Fisher’s pick. That was Bill Devaney’s pick, who is another idiot who expected praise for doing his job poorly.

My favorite part of this entire interview is when he’s trying to break down the Rams defense for the upcoming game.

“I’m not going to get into coaching it. They’ve got guys hired to do that. I just know this: the Rams' defense is like any other defense. You’ve got to be able to find their weak spots and attack them, and you’ve got to be able to stay ahead of the chains because if you get behind a group like this that can bring heat – they can bring pressure without blitzing, you know what I mean? – you’re in trouble.

Remember when you were going through the essay portion of the exam and you have to @#$%& your way through a question? This guy was a coach in the NFL since the 80’s and he basically said “you beat a defense by beating the defense.”

There’s credit due for how the 2017 Los Angeles Rams are performing. It doesn’t go to Dave McGinnis or Jeff Fisher or anyone involved with the failures of years past.

Thanks, but no thanks.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Titans color commentator Dave McGinnis has personal insight on Rams

Blue and Gold1176December 22, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: McGinnis/Fisher.......A lot of self promotion there.

oldschoolramfan294December 22, 2017 07:37AM

  Re: Titans color commentator Dave McGinnis has personal insight on Rams

Steve391December 22, 2017 07:40AM

  it's just true

zn269December 22, 2017 07:50AM

  one piece of interesting info

zn297December 22, 2017 07:48AM

  why wouldn’t he lie?

max289December 24, 2017 04:32AM

  because it's easily refuted

zn220December 24, 2017 11:46AM

  Oh, Please...

Rams43258December 22, 2017 07:55AM

  What would you say?

shellback286December 22, 2017 08:02AM

  Re: What would you say?

Rams43222December 22, 2017 08:10AM

  What would I say? Pretty much nothing.

RockRam115December 24, 2017 02:58AM

  Self-serving doesn't mean "spin"

Suh-weet!212December 22, 2017 08:46AM

  Re: Self-serving doesn't mean "spin"

zn218December 22, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: Really?

dzrams245December 22, 2017 10:19AM

  Re: Really?

21Dog265December 22, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: Really?

zn352December 22, 2017 10:34AM

  Re: You could be right and it still not matter...

dzrams207December 22, 2017 11:07AM

  Re: You could be right and it still not matter...

zn243December 22, 2017 11:12AM

  Re: You could be right and it still not matter...

dzrams198December 22, 2017 11:18AM

  Easy to see how McGinness was part of the problem.

RockRam266December 22, 2017 09:57AM

  Re: Easy to see how McGinness was part of the problem.

dzrams211December 22, 2017 10:28AM

  Fisher was pretty good with talent defense and special teams

Rams_81191December 22, 2017 10:40AM

  Re: No argument from me...NM

dzrams174December 22, 2017 11:00AM

  Re: Easy to see how McGinness was part of the problem.

Blue and Gold190December 22, 2017 11:29AM

  Gee what a blow hard

GreatRamNTheSky192December 22, 2017 10:12AM

  I think much is true on talent but he overlooks this

Rams_81210December 22, 2017 10:38AM

  this tweet chain

Blue and Gold229December 22, 2017 12:23PM

  Re: this tweet chain

Blue and Gold202December 22, 2017 12:25PM

  Re: Dave McGinnis/Jeff Fisher.....Nothing like "shooting yourself in the foot."

oldschoolramfan351December 23, 2017 08:56AM

  This thread is comical to say the least

six2stack218December 23, 2017 09:29AM

  Very well put and also Goff and Gurley

Rams_81214December 24, 2017 05:49AM

  Devaney said the same thing

Old Goat186December 24, 2017 02:09AM

  actually he didn't

zn116December 24, 2017 05:20AM

  Re: actually he didn't

Rams43132December 24, 2017 06:12AM

  How many times to star players perform below average

Rams_81232December 24, 2017 11:41AM

  Why fight the obvious ZN

RAMSINCE ARNETT121December 24, 2017 06:41AM

  cause I am fighting FOR the obvious -:)

zn121December 24, 2017 06:48AM