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If it were my opinion that last year's Fisher Rams were a better team than McVay's Rams, that is a mere opinion as well.

But would it be an equally reasonable opinion that this year's Rams are completely new team that has improved immensely over any Rams team in the last decade, especially last year's Fisher-led Rams?

Not all opinions are created equal. The first is supported by mere fancy, but the 2nd is supported by facts.

Perhaps the posters are somewhat aghast at your position because they hold to the belief that the longer the facts insist on countermanding a particular opinion, the less persuasive and lower-value that opinion becomes.

What facts are there on a team that has no players? Other than THAT fact?

What interests me is that just offering the opinion that Shanahan will be seen as a good coach once he has a team has to lead to an epistemology/forensics 101 debate. Seldom does anything get down to choices that stark. So no it's not just the bare empty binary of "fact" v. "fancy"---there's dozens of positions in between. That ought to be fairly obvious. (Plus there's the underground hubris of claiming "I am on the side of fact you are on the side of fancy" when it's actually 2 people with different opinions.)

So. And this is of course an opinion. From what I have seen of the 9ers and Shanahan, no one would be winning with the team he has, but still in the middle of all that he nevertheless strikes me as being a coach who can build a good one.

If it's mere fancy to say that, it takes exactly the same amount of mere fancy to deny it. Cause the truth is, if we are in the area of guesses, hunches, projections, and opinions, then...denying he can be a good head coach takes as much sheer projection as claiming he will be. Unless you think he DOES have a team someone could win with but he's just squandering it.

If you're just saying YOU don;t have an opinion because for YOU there;s too little to go on, cool. No one would argue with that.

Either way the ONLY thing that will resolve this is time. Only time tells on debates like this. Anything else is just people disagreeing ahead of time. Based on opinion on every side. One day, when enough time has elapsed to make a fact-based judgment, he will be somewhere on the scale of bad to average to good to very good as a coach. Even then there will probably be still room for reasonable disagreement.

So we'll come back to this after a year or two, we'll see where we stand then.






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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2017 06:45PM by zn.